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NHL Operating Incomes Analysis

By , September 15, 2011 2:05 pm
Where all the Dallas Stars revenue went...

Where all the Dallas Stars revenue went...

So this article was inspired by some talk over at the Putting On The Foil Forum about financial problems some teams in the NHL are having… namely the New Jersey Devils and the Dallas Stars. I thought I’d dig a little deeper, knowing that there is information from Forbes about teams’ operating incomes available to the general public. Why are these teams in such hardship when it seems like they’ve always done well?

Stastical uber analysis by Moi

OK, Click the link for a pic of an Excel doc (maybe I’ll upload this thing to Google Docs later) I made based on Forbes NHL Team Valuation reports.

First off… an important note: Take this with a grain of salt! That is because these numbers might not be 100% accurate. Plus the values are a bit off already in that it (as they state at Forbes) they don’t include “interest, taxes, amortization, depreciation”. Also keep in mind we don’t have last year’s numbers yet. However, I think they still give us an overview to see what teams have been succeeding and which have been keeping their head above water.

Dallas… a recent article stated that they were in financial hardship and are selling the team and declaring bankruptcy (the ownership group is). Well, if you look at the Forbes numbers, it looks like this team is still doing quite well. So I kind of wonder if the problems the Stars’ ownership group is having is because of the Stars or if it’s because of their other businesses/teams that they own, etc. Anyone with insight on that, feel free to share.

Anyways, I thought I’d use this info to point out that keeping this league afloat (and this should be obvious) are profits by Toronto, Montreal, New York, and to lesser extents Detroit and Vancouver, DALLAS, Edmonton and Chicago.

Your bottom feeders are:
Phoenix, Florida, New York Islanders, Columbus, Carolina, Atlanta, Nashville, Buffalo, St. Louis, Washington (a team that is losing money despite Ovechkin being there).

Here’s a sorted version of that table I did up above.

Note: I am in no way a dollars and “sense” (sic) guy. So I may be severely oversimplifying things here. But it just seems to me like the Dallas Stars aren’t really a bankrupt team so much as the ownership group is bankrupt for other reasons. The Devils seem to have been losing money up until recently, although I’d say once you figure out all the missing numbers (taxes, etc.) they’ve probably lost money every year since 2006.

Where would this league be now without Toronto, Montreal and New York though?

GDT Oilers 4, Stars 1 – Game 57 – 2011-02-15 @ 7:00 PM MST – SNETW

By , February 15, 2011 10:19 am
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GDT - Edmonton Oilers vs. Dallas Stars
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31-19-6 Record 16-32-8
Location: Rexall Place
Date: February 15, 2011 @ 7:00 PM MST
TV: SNETW

PRE-GAME RANT

The Oilers have been playing some pretty poor hockey lately, which triggered a meeting between the team and General Manager Steve Tambellini. Look for a post on that shortly. I think it will work tonight.. I hope they dress MacIntyre, as I think he has a score to settle, if what I caught in the last Oil Change was any indication. Kreuger was holding him back like a pit bull on a leash, saying that “we play them again soon”. As luck (or lack of) would have it, MacIntyre did not get dressed for the follow up game.

Prediction: a fight for MacIntyre (please be dressed) and a spirited 4-3 win for the home team.

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GDT Oilers 1, Stars 3 – Game 49 – 2011-01-26 @ 5:30 PM – TSN

By , January 26, 2011 11:50 am
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Edmonton Oilers vs. Dallas Stars
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15-25-8 Record 29-15-5
Location: American Airlines Center
Date: January 26, 2011 @ 5:30 PM MST
TV: TSN

PRE-GAME RANT

Happy birthday to Wayne, happy birthday to Wayne, happy birthday dear Wayner, happy birthday to you. Happy 50th big guy!

Now that’s out of the way, let’s see what we’re in for tonight. Dallas Stars again…

There have been some chippy games recently between the two clubs, so look for a spirited affair tonight. Adding to the Stars’ angst they’ve been outscored 14-5 in their last two games, so hopefully the goaltending woes continue and the Oil have a big game before going into the break.

Back to Wayne, share your thoughts in the comments on some fond memories of the glory days. A few stick in my mind that weren’t all that glorious. I remember a line brawl in one game when Wayne was on the ice. Everyone had a dance partner and Wayne’s opponent respectfully pinned him to the ice and just held him there while everyone else started the lawn mowers. Another big moment in Wayne memories happened post trade and involved another Oiler. Kelly Buchberger laid Wayne out with a vicious elbow while Gretzky was with the Blues. Someone has to post some happier memories below.

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GDT Oilers 2, Stars 4 – Game 46 – 2011-01-20 @ 7:00 PM – SNET W

By , January 20, 2011 10:36 am
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GDT - Edmonton Oilers vs. Dallas Stars
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28-13-5 Record 14-24-7
Location: Rexall Place
Date: January 20, 2011 @ 7:00 PM MST
TV: SNETW

PRE-GAME RANT

Tonight the Oilers face the Dallas Stars, who are currently sitting at 3rd in the conference. They’ve been on a tear too, with 4 wins in a row (7-2-1 in their last 10). The Oilers are in the opposite situation, having had a tough time winning in their last 10 (2-7-1) and having dropped their last 3. I don’t see any reason to think that either streak will change tonight.

Horcoff is due back tonight, however (although not enough to swing things in our favor).

Prediction: 4-1 Stars

Also, rumors now starting of Penner or Hemsky being dealt before the deadline (barring any concussions), per the Fourth Period.

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GDT Oilers 2, Stars 3 – Game 41 – 2011-01-11 @ 6:30 PM – SNET EDM

By , January 11, 2011 2:11 pm
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GDT - Edmonton Oilers vs. Dallas Stars
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13-20-7 Record 25-13-5
Location: Dr. Pepper Arena
Date: January 11, 2011 @ 6:30 PM MST
TV: SN EDM

PRE-GAME RANT

Hopefully Hemsky and Hall can look beyond the all star invites and focus on the game at hand tonight. Also congrats to Eberle who also got an invite if he’s healthy enough to attend.

This is the first matchup with the Stars this season and they aren’t to be taken lightly having greatly turned things around after finishing 12th in the West last year.

The Oilers will be in tough again with an inexperienced pairing of Chorney and Petry rounding out the 6 defenseman tonight. They’re also experimenting with Hall at center. It’s not new to Hall who spent some time at the position in junior, but this will be his first go at the NHL level.

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