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By MetalOil, August 28, 2010 @ 1:39 pm MetalOil(Quote)
I am not up for trading Penner at all. Some might say that it would be a sell high move on the Oilers part but I would counter that with saying Penner has been a good player since he has gotten here. It has not always showed in his offensive stats but for 2, perhaps 3 seasons now he has by far been our most responsible forward in our D-Zone. How he was the the whipping boy for so many fans and our former, former coach is beyond me? Think how bad the team would have been last season without him.
By gr8one, August 28, 2010 @ 2:13 pm gr8one(Quote)
M&O:
I agree about not trading Penner, and it’s definitely not something I’d ever lobby for, I’m only putting it out there as a “what if”, not something I want to happen.
Although, of course it depends on the return too…it could end being really good, if it did happen, and it we got some good pieces in return, I wouldn’t be upset either.
And Racki, good points, I think in my mind I was giving too much weight to the idea of Souray being sort of an alabatross to that deal.
I do think that L.A. values Simmonds A LOT, he’s a freight train on speed and has 20-25 goal potential upside, and good D zone play.
But really, if we’re putting Penner on the market I’ll go back to my Jeff carter infatuation and say something like Penner/Cogs for Carter and a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be hard for Holmgren not to look at.
If we’re trading any of those players I’d much prefer them to be sent out of conference.
By gr8one, August 28, 2010 @ 2:25 pm gr8one(Quote)
You’d have to think that Schenn could be in play too if Penner is being shopped to LA…
That’s another interesting thought.
By Racki, August 28, 2010 @ 3:50 pm Racki(Quote)
Yah I’m not sure if Philly would do it, but trading for Carter would be a better deal. We take some of their cap hit, although not much, and they also get the ultimate “throw in”. On our side of the deal, we deal a position of strength and get a bit better but similar skilled player to fill a position of weakness. I’d love it. Would Philly? Don’t know. But hey, we can always dream.
By LateNightOilFan, August 28, 2010 @ 4:53 pm LateNightOilFan(Quote)
Well it’s confirmed that Comrie isn’t coming back to the Oilers.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/08/28/oilers_comrie/
By zackman35, August 28, 2010 @ 5:20 pm zackman35(Quote)
“We want to give our skill positions to our younger players,” Oilers GM Steve Tambellini told Sportsnet.ca.”
Sounds like we’re trying to rush our future, “younger players”, to me. I don’t really like the sound of that. I’m back to the whole ‘winning environment’ argument, its not going to be very fun for our “younger players” to play under .500 season. Not saying that it will happen but hopefully we acquire a few more vets!
Racki: Go take a look in the sandbox and start playing around with things.
By Racki, August 28, 2010 @ 5:48 pm Racki(Quote)
Zack: wow, I’m loving the new look.. you guys are going to love it. I honestly shouldn’t have written up this theme, cause it might go to waste! lol But I’m fine with that.. having a few options is always good.
By Racki, August 28, 2010 @ 7:30 pm Racki(Quote)
Time will tell if it is a good idea to ride the shizzle out of the kids. It doesn’t sound like a good idea to start, and I’m sure if it blows up there will be many “I told you so” types out there. But we’ll see.
Chicago handed things over to Toews/Kane early though, didn’t they? At least we still can form a top line without a single player under 25 in it. So we’ll see..
By neufab, August 28, 2010 @ 8:56 pm neufab(Quote)
Wo hoo, the Esks won a game
By Steve-O, August 28, 2010 @ 9:42 pm Steve-O(Quote)
yes! that game was too important for that early in the season. LETS GO ESKIES!!
By gr8one, August 28, 2010 @ 9:52 pm gr8one(Quote)
Speaking of football…
NFL regular season coming pretty quick now, so if we’re going to do a fantasy league here we should get it going pretty soon.
I think 3 or 4 guys expressed interest, but to make it viable we need at least 8…preferably 10 or 12 is ideal.
So yeah, let me know, or if you guys know any others that don’t come here, recruit them too!!
post here if you’re interested and/or email at my yahoo account.
bcory_74@yahoo.com
By MetalOil, August 28, 2010 @ 10:04 pm MetalOil(Quote)
I am in !!! Look for an email soon. What site is it gonna be on? I just did a team on ESPN.com & it seems like a good one so far
By gr8one, August 28, 2010 @ 10:08 pm gr8one(Quote)
I’ve done fanatsy football on Fox, ESPN and Yahoo…they’re all pretty good tbh, My personal favorite is probably yahoo, but really they’re all pretty similar content wise.
If we get enough interest we’ll do a little pseudo vote as to which one is preferred.
By MetalOil, August 28, 2010 @ 10:13 pm MetalOil(Quote)
Sounds good !!! This is the first time I have tried Fantasy Football so I have no clue which is best. On NFL.com it seems that u have to live in the US
By Bostonoiler, August 28, 2010 @ 11:27 pm Bostonoiler(Quote)
I’m in man
By gr8one, August 29, 2010 @ 12:31 pm gr8one(Quote)
ok, so that’s 3 including me…need at least 5 more, preferably 7.
By Racki, August 29, 2010 @ 1:18 pm Racki(Quote)
While it probably makes me a more favorable pool addition, I don’t watch much football, so I’m out!
By MetalOil, August 29, 2010 @ 1:58 pm MetalOil(Quote)
I actually enjoy NFL football as much as I like the NHL, if not more. What makes the NFL so great in my opinion that the players give it there all every single time on the field. Players can get released from their contracts at any time without much penalty to their teams (unless they have alot of guaranteed money in their contracts). Also if an NFL player is not living up to the teams standards then all they merely have to do is wait for the next draft and replace said individual in the very deep NFL draft then release the bum. And that is if they don’t have already have reliable replacement on the roster & in most cases they do.
I feel that in the NHL lots of players get complacent and do not always give it their all. There is not much NHL teams can do about this ether. How long would the NHL teams have to lockout the players to undue guaranteed contracts LOL
By gr8one, August 29, 2010 @ 2:07 pm gr8one(Quote)
Yeah, I totally agree with you about how hard they play, same with the CFL, which is extra refreshing because not only do they need to play hard, but you know they are playing for the love of the game and aren’t warped by being spoiled bazillionaires. I too HATE the guaranteed contract structure in the NHL.
As much as I like the CFL though, and prefer the rules of the CFL, it’s hard to beat the pure athletic-ness across the board of the athletes in the NFL. They’re just freaks of nature.
By Mr.Majestyk, August 29, 2010 @ 4:30 pm Mr.Majestyk(Quote)
Freaks of nature? ‘Roids will do that to you.
They definitely compete hard, but I think in some ways that is because they only play 16 games per season. One game per week is all they can do the way they put it all out there on the field. The NHL would benefit from playing less regular season games because over the course of 82 games, there will be games that are meaningless to some teams, and players will take a night off. Every game in the NFL is crucial unless you are the Lions. The NHL and PA would probably be against less games because it would reduce revenue. Its all about the money.
What if they reduced the number of regular season games but added an additional round to the playoffs? Something where the division champs get a bye through the opening round. Those teams with a bye would get revenue sharing from that opening round despite not playing any games.
By chucker, August 29, 2010 @ 4:47 pm chucker(Quote)
I’m out. I don’t watch NFL so I’d be useless at it. Thanks though.
By Racki, August 29, 2010 @ 5:30 pm Racki(Quote)
To the idea of reducing games and adding more playoffs.. leave the game I love alone, already!
By Mr.Majestyk, August 29, 2010 @ 8:19 pm Mr.Majestyk(Quote)
I hear ya, but the game you love has always been changing. So which game is it that you love? The one from the 80′s where the opening round featured a 5 game series, or the one today? The one where you end a game in a tie or the one where you have a shootout at the end?
More playoff hockey is more entertaining hockey. And by reducing the number of regular season games, people might finally stop complaining about the playoffs in June.
By Bostonoiler, August 29, 2010 @ 8:23 pm Bostonoiler(Quote)
ESPN rumor central thinks the Oilers will start talks with Niemi, or at least look into Niemi soon. They also think something could happen with Khabi. Best case is that we get out of Khabi’s deal and role with Niemi for the next two seasons.
By Mr.Majestyk, August 29, 2010 @ 8:27 pm Mr.Majestyk(Quote)
Off Topic – I find it incredibly irritating when I go to TSN.ca and have to hear those dumb Blackberry ads. ‘I got a car club and if we see a cool car, we just BBM it’
By gr8one, August 29, 2010 @ 8:28 pm gr8one(Quote)
wow, could you imagine if we got out of the Khabi contract and managed to get rid of Souray without taking a shit contract back?
we’d be in exceptional form.
I only want Niemi for the right price, and no longer than 2 years. I’m not sold on him being a high end goalie, and if we’re talking a two year contract just to get us over a hump, really see what we have in JDD/DD and hope for some sick development from Roy, I’d probably just as soon us sign Theodore.
By Racki, August 29, 2010 @ 8:34 pm Racki(Quote)
This is sort of the point I mean though.. they’re constantly tweaking something, it seems. I just wish they’d leave it alone.
I actually do like the length of the regular season as is too. Considering our team hasn’t made the playoffs in nearly half a decade, I think I’d like to watch as much regular season hockey as I can. lol
Oh, on this whole ESPN speculation that the Oilers are after Niemi, I like the sounds of it. Personally, like I said before, I am fine with them trying to get out of Khabi’s contract, and if that doesn’t work, eating the cap hit. Then of course next step would be to grab a young goaltender. And I’ve even thought Theodore could be worth the shot too if you sign him for 1 year at a bargain-basement price.
By chucker, August 29, 2010 @ 9:01 pm chucker(Quote)
@ Racki and MM. I personally like the way it was back in the 80′s. I hate when they change shit all the time. 2 minutes used to be a full two minutes……until the Oilers lit teams up. Fighting was fighting and recognized as an essential part of the game. Now we have injuries and blind side hits. Not then.
I liked the five game openers but 7 is okay too. I would like the season to wrap up sooner as well, but it’s all about revenue now. More games = more dollars and I get that. I guess it’s evolution, but I still like the way it used to be.
Also, I loved the tie. Shootouts are exciting, but at the end of the day, they cheapen the game.
On Khabbi, I think I’ve let my feeling be known there. We’ll see what happens soon enough I guess.
EDIT: Also, I hated when they got rid of the old division names. It spat in the face of those who built the game and dumbed it down for
American tv deals that will never happen. I also loved the way you used to qualify for the playoffs. That’s what made it truly interesting and also allowed for dynasty’s. But, I’m an old codger who farts dust. What do I know?
By Bostonoiler, August 30, 2010 @ 12:22 am Bostonoiler(Quote)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/446095-oilers-re-sign-gagner-let-comrie-walk-and-oilers-rumors?just_published=1
Might be my best article lol, rumors, comrie walks and gags signing, come on by and comment!
By Mr.Majestyk, August 30, 2010 @ 5:57 am Mr.Majestyk(Quote)
Thats what happens when we become old codgers. We don’t like change anymore. I’m sure there are older guys that hated when they expanded from 6 teams(mostly Leaf fans I gather). I agree with you guys that sometimes I don’t agree with all the proposed changes(stuff like changing the size of goal nets). I don’t think changing the playoff format is outside the realm of possibility because it has been brought up a few times at GM’s meetings. The stumbling block of course is lost revenue for the teams that earn a bye in the first round.
How many teams made the playoffs in 1984 and how many teams were in the NHL total?
How many teams made the playoffs last year and how many teams are in the NHL now?
By Mr.Majestyk, August 30, 2010 @ 6:40 am Mr.Majestyk(Quote)
Okay, I just came up with my new playoff format – everyone can boo and jeer me afterwards
24 teams make the playoffs instead of 16 leaving only 6 teams on the oustide looking in.
- This is a good thing because the battle for 8th spot usually has 3 or 4 teams knocking on the door, but of course only one gets into the playoffs. As we saw last year with the Flyers, and in our own cup run, just get in and anything can happen.
- Over the years there have been many struggling franchises and part of that might have something to do with their inability to qualify for the post season. Under this system last season would have seen the Blues, Flamers(booo!), Ducks and Stars make it in the West and Rangers, Thrashers, Hurricanes and Lightning in the East. Would have been a rare occassion for the Lightning and Thrashers to make the playoffs last season. Okay, I know the argument is that the battle for 8th spot is what makes the regular season so exciting, but isn’t playoff hockey more exciting? The Islanders were 1pt back of TB, and Florida 3pts back. Wouldn’t that be just as exciting a race for the playoffs? Maybe those bottom feeding teams would be more prepared to bolster their teams at the deadline instead of unloading every useful player because they thought they had a better chance of making the playoffs.
Top 4 Teams in each conference earn a bye in the first round of playoffs.
- They deserve something for being the best teams in the NHL. Maybe Washington doesn’t have to face Halak in the playoffs.
- The stumbling block is lost revenue for teams not playing in the first round. I propose that revenue generated from the opening round of playoffs is shared so that even those teams that earned a bye get some financial reward.
First round of playoffs Best of 5 series.
- In order to fit it all in, they would reduce the number of regular season games to 78.
The only other proposal I would like to see regarding the playoffs is top ranked team plays bottom ranked team regardless of conference. As it stands now, there can never be a Montreal-Toronto final, or an Edmonton-Calgary final. I just think it would be awesome to have any matchup possible.
By Racki, August 30, 2010 @ 8:50 am Racki(Quote)
Why don’t we just have a 112-game playoff format and forgo the regular season?
Seriously though.. reducing the season to 78 games isn’t bad at all (although I think they’d reduce it a bit more to try and balance games played vs. teams in divisions evenly).
I’m not a big fan of all but 6 teams making it. That’s up there with the CFL’s playoff format where you have to suck of recent-Eskimo proportions to miss the playoffs, and even then you might get in. If there was a way to do it with 20 teams making it, I’d be more inclined to do that, because 24 teams making the big show just seems a bit too easy and kind of makes the regular season too unimportant. It’s important, but not important enough.
Also, I would imaging they’d have to reduce the regular season a bit more since you want equal games for games within a specific division. Anyways, just spitballing here…
By Racki, August 30, 2010 @ 8:56 am Racki(Quote)
I guess with us old codgers, it’s always a question of “why are you changing it?”. So why change it? Is there something with the regular season or playoffs that is broke?
Maybe they could introduce more teams to the playoffs, I could handle that.. although I’m not sure there is any doable method that you could implement that allows extra teams, but not too many extra (8 is too many extra, imho)
Anyways, if you hate our format, imagine baseball where there are 2x as many games as the NHL, and what, 1/4 of the playoff contenders.
That’s not to say that we should do that, or that it justifies having 16 teams make the playoffs and 82 game schedule.. just saying it could be a lot worse, and I actually do like it as is. I don’t want to see teams limp into the playoffs. Maybe 4 more teams making it would be OK (albeit probably impossible to do), but more than that and you’re kind of washing out the importance of the regular season.
If I had my way though, the league would drop half a dozen teams or so.
By Steve-O, August 30, 2010 @ 2:50 pm Steve-O(Quote)
Did someone say NFL pool!?
By gr8one, August 30, 2010 @ 3:27 pm gr8one(Quote)
yes, now we need 6 more.
By Mr.Majestyk, August 30, 2010 @ 3:55 pm Mr.Majestyk(Quote)
Well I did mention in an earlier post that back in 84 the first cup for the Oilers, 16 teams made the playoffs and only 21 teams in the NHL. The regular season would still be important because not only would teams strive to make the playoffs, they would strive to reach the top 4 so that they would earn a bye in the opening round.
It sounds crazy now because its not the norm, but if it were implemented and then 10 years down the line someone wanted to change it back, there would likely be fans saying “don’t fix it if it ain’t broke!” Let’s go back to the 1984 model. 5 game series in the opening round, and Oilers win the cup!
By Trogdor, August 30, 2010 @ 3:56 pm Trogdor(Quote)
There are times where a format like the EPL’s(yes, I’m bringing up futbol on a hockey site) structure can be really exciting at season’s end but on the flip side you can also have a champion declared weeks before the season completes. They just award the best team over the course of the season with the championship, no playoffs. Ensures the best team wins instead of a sleeper team upsetting in the playoffs on a run, but that’s part of the playoff excitement. The bottom 3 EPL also get sent down a div, and the lower divs top 3 come up, so even the losers have something to play for.
So many different ways it can be done. I am interested in the thought of giving a bye to top teams, but maybe just 1 or 2 from each div, then have a wildcard for those spots. Wouldn’t extend the length of the playoffs any longer, and would give some unlikely teams a chance at the post season.
By gr8one, August 30, 2010 @ 10:17 pm gr8one(Quote)
Category 4 Hurricane pointing straight at us. yikes.
By chucker, August 30, 2010 @ 10:33 pm chucker(Quote)
I know. I wish it was pointing towards the gulf. Seriously. The price of oil needs to go up.
By gr8one, August 30, 2010 @ 10:41 pm gr8one(Quote)
lol
By LateNightOilFan, August 31, 2010 @ 6:08 am LateNightOilFan(Quote)
Stay safe! It looks like it’s tracking the same as Juan so NS might be where it makes landfall. Lovely.
By gr8one, August 31, 2010 @ 7:19 am gr8one(Quote)
yup…all the models show it sideswiping us before taking dead aim at Nova Scotia. Hopefully by then the models are right and it’s petered out to a Cat1 or TS.
My only experience with these storms is Hanna, which when she hit us was already downgraded to a tropical storm and it was crazy, I can’t imagine a cat4 hurricane!
By Racki, August 31, 2010 @ 8:11 am Racki(Quote)
Don’t forget to lower the umbrella on your patio table… always helpful Racki…
By Racki, August 31, 2010 @ 10:16 am Racki(Quote)
In non-Khabi news, Doug Weight has re-signed with the NYI:
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332233
By victoriaoilerfan, August 31, 2010 @ 1:32 pm victoriaoilerfan(Quote)
Peckham’s waiver status. I am confused.
I understand that he woul dhave to clera waivers this year if sent down. But not according to Cap geek’s waiver calculator. I entered that he signed his 1st NHL contract in 2010 according to my googling him and that he has played in 33 games. This calculator says he doesn’t have to clear??
http://www.capgeek.com/waiver_calculator.php?player=46&submit_player_test=1&eleven_games_radio=0&eleven_games_year=pre&NHL_games=31&signing_year=2010&Calculate=%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0CALCULATE+WAIVER+STATUS%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0
By Racki, August 31, 2010 @ 4:05 pm Racki(Quote)
In more unrelated news, Aaron Johnson has signed with the Preds.
Vic: His first NHL contract would be his entry level deal, from what I understand… enter that in, and you see he has to clear waivers.
By MetalOil, August 31, 2010 @ 5:54 pm MetalOil(Quote)
Humm….It seems (according to the Oilers site) that Aaron Johnson signed with the Preds today. Too bad cause I liked what I saw from him in his brief stint here.
edit:NVM did not see the post above.
By gr8one, September 1, 2010 @ 6:38 pm gr8one(Quote)
A little bit of NHLPA rookie camp shenanigans.
http://oilers.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=4&id=74893
you can tell they’re not really trying and just messing around, but I found Paajarvi’s attempt at the 0.22s mark to be pretty cool.
The first time I watched it I actually thought he had completely flubbed it, but he actually purposefully flipped the puck up in the air on his forehand and then bats it from mid-air…I’ve never actually seen that move before, and I can’t actually tell if he scores or not, but still pretty cool. I ~think~ the puck might go off the nub of the goalie stick, but can’t say for sure.
By gr8one, September 1, 2010 @ 7:00 pm gr8one(Quote)
We got lucky…
Looks like a narrow miss for us with Hurricane Earl.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p67/fraglez/212340W5_NL_sm.gif
Looks like it’s going to go straight at LNOF though, so let’s hope it dies down by the time it gets there!
By LateNightOilFan, September 1, 2010 @ 7:28 pm LateNightOilFan(Quote)
I was thinking about you today gr8one, good to hear it’s going to miss you but I bet you’ll still get a good dose of rain & wind.
Last I heard we’re at a 50% chance of a direct hit. The water/air temp is high just like it was for Juan so it’s likely going to be at least a category 2 when it hits. It looks to be tracking a bit west compared to Juan though so my area on the eastern shore may not be hit as hard as the SW coast of NS. If it makes landfall there it would continue into the Bay of Fundy and across NB. Fundy has some of the highest tides in the world so that could wreak havoc. It still has a chance to hit Maine as well.
At any rate we’ll be hurricane proofing starting tomorrow. Last time we lost power & water for 7 days so if you don’t hear from me for a while you’ll know why!