General Discussion

By , September 30, 2009 6:18 pm

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  1. chucker says:

    The fourth line wasted spots occupied by plugs has definitely been an issue. No doubt about that.

  2. Racki says:

    Brad Marchand re-upped with the Bs.. $4.5M per year for 4 years.

    ~Overpayment for a guy that has never scored 30, has only 2 years under his belt, averaged only 48 pts a season with a high of 55!!!!!~

    This is sarcasm, BTW.. just making fun of fans here that would have said that (or other team’s fans) when our guys get those kinds of deals.

  3. chucker says:

    Racki:
    Brad Marchand re-upped with the Bs.. $4.5M per year for 4 years.

    ~Overpayment for a guy that has never scored 30, has only 2 years under his belt, averaged only 48 pts a season with a high of 55!!!!!~

    This is sarcasm, BTW.. just making fun of fans here that would have said that (or other team’s fans) when our guys get those kinds of deals.

    I thought it was decent as well in terms of the current cap percentage. I wonder if he wanted a short term. Kind of a gamble if the ELC goes longer.

  4. dawgtoy says:

    Well, tonight I check off a bucket list item, my wife and I are headed to Flushing Meadows for the men’s final of the 2012 US open. We got here on Friday and NYC is incredible. Then we head to Boston on 9-11 for another bucket list item, Fenway to see the Sox and Yanks. If we survive flying on 9-11, we’ll head to ground zero on Thursday, along with the Statue of Liberty, Battery Park ,and Ellis island. We’ve already visited the Empire state building, 30 Rock, time squares, Central Park, and Grand Central station. If I’m in the neighbourhood I might swing by the NHL head office and kick both Bettman and Fehr squarely in the junk. I’m posting as I sit in our Manhatten condo sipping on a Tim Hortons coffee. I found a tiny little Tim Hortons just around the corner and i couldn’t resist. Sorry about bragging, but this is a once in a lifetime style trip.

  5. gr8one says:

    dawgtoy:
    Well, tonight I check off a bucket list item, my wife and I are headed to Flushing Meadows for the men’s final of the 2012 US open. We got here on Friday and NYC is incredible. Then we head to Boston on 9-11 for another bucket list item, Fenway to see the Sox and Yanks. If we survive flying on 9-11, we’ll head to ground zero on Thursday, along with the Statue of Liberty, Battery Park ,and Ellis island. We’ve already visited the Empire state building, 30 Rock, time squares, Central Park, and Grand Central station. If I’m in the neighbourhood I might swing by the NHL head office and kick both Bettman and Fehr squarely in the junk. I’m posting as I sit in our Manhatten condo sipping on a Tim Hortons coffee. I found a tiny little Tim Hortons just around the corner and i couldn’t resist. Sorry about bragging, but this is a once in a lifetime style trip.

    Very nice my friend, awesome trip, hope you have a blast and be safe flying on 9/11…although I’m sure it’ll just be a major pain in the ass with extra security.

  6. hemmerlady says:

    dawgtoy:
    Well, tonight I check off a bucket list item, my wife and I are headed to Flushing Meadows for the men’s final of the 2012 US open. We got here on Friday and NYC is incredible. Then we head to Boston on 9-11 for another bucket list item, Fenway to see the Sox and Yanks. If we survive flying on 9-11, we’ll head to ground zero on Thursday, along with the Statue of Liberty, Battery Park ,and Ellis island. We’ve already visited the Empire state building, 30 Rock, time squares, Central Park, and Grand Central station. If I’m in the neighbourhood I might swing by the NHL head office and kick both Bettman and Fehr squarely in the junk. I’m posting as I sit in our Manhatten condo sipping on a Tim Hortons coffee. I found a tiny little Tim Hortons just around the corner and i couldn’t resist. Sorry about bragging, but this is a once in a lifetime style trip.

    awesome… I’m jealous about the US Open. How was the game???
    Hope your flight goes well. I almost laughed at the “if we survive flying comment” but couldn’t go through with it.

  7. chucker says:

    dawgtoy:
    Well, tonight I check off a bucket list item, my wife and I are headed to Flushing Meadows for the men’s final of the 2012 US open. We got here on Friday and NYC is incredible. Then we head to Boston on 9-11 for another bucket list item, Fenway to see the Sox and Yanks. If we survive flying on 9-11, we’ll head to ground zero on Thursday, along with the Statue of Liberty, Battery Park ,and Ellis island. We’ve already visited the Empire state building, 30 Rock, time squares, Central Park, and Grand Central station. If I’m in the neighbourhood I might swing by the NHL head office and kick both Bettman and Fehr squarely in the junk. I’m posting as I sit in our Manhatten condo sipping on a Tim Hortons coffee. I found a tiny little Tim Hortons just around the corner and i couldn’t resist. Sorry about bragging, but this is a once in a lifetime style trip.

    Awesome. I always wanted to go. Hope you have a terrific time!

  8. dawgtoy says:

    Yak with two goals and the shootout winner. He had four attempts in the shootout. Good game kid. Youtube of his first goal today.

  9. LateNightOilFan says:

    Hi folks, sorry for being so scarce during the lockout, have lots going on right now dealing with some family issues. Hope everyone is well and getting through the lockout the best way you know how to.

    For Ben Eager, that means getting himself arrested in Toronto on Sat. night. Prepare yourselves for his forthcoming apology!

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1274953–edmonton-oilers-nhl-player-ben-eager-arrested-after-toronto-bar-fight

  10. NorwegianOiler says:

    The lockout idiocy is sucking the life force out of me.

  11. Racki says:

    What NorBot said.

    Thankfully though, the Barons and Oil Kings have filled the void. Those greedy buggers can cancel the NHL season for all I care.

  12. chucker says:

    http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Microgalleries/2012/10/30/20318216.html?&pic=0

    Ashamed of you I am! The fruit of The Great One’s loins is shakin it like a dime store hooker and nothing! Nothing about it here. Shame gentlemen. This could bring a smile of hope to many weary hockey souls. Do the right thing. Nut up.

  13. Racki says:

    LOL! You are absolutely right. Things have taken a dive here for a while, I must admit, and definitely apologize for that. We will rise like a phoenix eventually. Right now I’ve lost some motivation over blog posts, with the NHL (PA included) being lame as shit with the labour dispute. On top of that, a large amount of my blog posts were made while at work, during work hours. I’ve sort of lost that ability .. things have been crazy busy for me at work the past couple months. Then there is the keeper, which also stalled for a bit, although I started working on it again this week, and interest there is picking up.

    We will pull the blog out of the fire, but for now, things are a little on the blah side.

    Now on to Paulina Gretzky…. hubba. I think the Great One moniker should run in the family.

  14. chucker says:

    Well, good to see all is well at least. Maybe your fiancée could take over the blog for a while. I hear she knows computer stuff.

    The lockout rhetoric and general BS is something I stopped really following a week or two back for the most part. I have now moved to trying to follow the kids on the farm and watching Teubert beat on guys. It’s something at least.

  15. Racki says:

    I want to follow more than I’ve been able to, but I’ve been following a long a bit.

    Teubert sticking up for teammates.. that was awesome to see. Schultz being a beast in the AHL… wicked. Yakupov doing well in the KHL.. also awesome. Things are going well outside of the NHL!

    Plus, the Oil Kings traded for David Musil last night (Oilers prospect). I might need a “mms” style post sometime soon here to recap stuff.

  16. Ktown says:

    Ah, Chucker… well done…

    I’ve popped into the FHL forum every now and then, but nobody’s around. It’s like hanging out at the schoolyard over summer break.

    Living out here in the Okanagan, it’s not so bad, really. Before I subscribed to Center Ice, I had to get my hockey fix online or through highlight vids. For me, following the Barons is pretty much the same as how I could follow the Oilers for a few years.

    Plus, the Rockets keep me entertained (big 3-0 win over the undefeated-in-regulation Blazers last week).

    Anyways – couple observations on the Barons. It’s absolutely nuts how Justin Schultz has walked into the league and is lighting it up. I know its the baby-bigs, but if he’s even half as good in the bigs, that will be a great boost to the PP, and 5on5 play.

    Teubert chasing guys down to pummel them is a great thing. I just hope he can develop his a game a bit more so he can be a more effective shut-down D-man. Right now, he still makes a few mistakes in the zone that cost, but if he can start playing some smart hockey he could be a really good effective protector for the big team.

    The one thing that scares me though is their ability to shitcan leads in the third. Twice against the Aeros they gave up 3-0 leads in the 3rd, and they’ve had a few late comebacks against. I’m hoping that’s not something that carries through to the NHL. I’m guessing it won’t as the Oil will have more experienced checkers/shut down guys playing on the 3rd and 4th lines, but it’s a concern for sure.

    Notes: Ben Eager gets an assault charge in TO. Where the hell was that fighting mentality when he was on the ice? Can stand up to drunks, but not NHLers? *sigh* he needs to really look in the mirror and figure it out.

  17. Racki says:

    Agreed that blowing leads, or at least losing some of the cushion should be a concern down there. Quite frankly I’m not overly concerned about that team. I mean, yah, success down there is important.. but I’m being pretty greedy.. I’m just happy to see our future stars doing well there even if team success is sketchy at times (they aren’t doing bad or anything.. just have noted issues with the 3rd period leads).

    But the fact that Schultz is destroying down there, and Nuge and Ebs are both > ppg makes me giddy. Even Paajarvi is doing OK. Still not where I’d expect him to be though, but hopefully he’ll get there. Hartikainen is almost a ppg too, and unless that’s changed, he’s been playing with the nuge and Ebs. So there is a line in the making there. Or at least, Hartikainen may be able to work into the Oilers’ top six down the road, which needs some size desparately.

    As for Eager, totally agree.. said the same things myself. It’s hard to know how much of that is coaching too though.. sometimes a coach puts a tight leash on a player and won’t allow them to fight. I’m not sure so much that was the case with Eager, however. Hordichuk, I firmly believe he wanted to do anything he could to go wreak havoc and stir shit up though. And Krueger seems to sound like he’s going to take the leash off of him and allow him to do what he needs to be a useful NHLer (and yes, I do think he can be useful in a limited sense).

  18. Metal&Oil says:

    Racki:

    Plus, the Oil Kings traded for David Musil last night (Oilers prospect). I might need a “mms” style post sometime soon here to recap stuff.

    Don’t know how I missed that transaction but I really like it! Musil is a player who I have followed closely since the WJ’s last year. Really like his game and I think with the proper development he will be a mainstay on the Oilers blueline for many years.

  19. hemmerlady says:

    …hello…anyone? Anyone?
    Bueller………………..Bueller?

  20. chucker says:

    *crawls out from under rock….looks around….goes back under rock*

  21. oilinblood says:

    just thought a dose of history was in order to show why we are where we are. TRUST – or complete lack of it.

    http://nesn.com/2009/08/kelly-firing-proves-nhlpa-will-never-learn/

    Ive said my opinion a few time and i will say it again; I believe had Kelly been head of the PA there would be no work stoppage, the players likely would never have to go to 50/50 because problems would have been pro-actively solved, and a couple PA employees would likely be in jail thanks to a Kelly ordered fbI led audit that was stopped after Kellys dismissal.

    Just saying. The brightest time in NHL history for League – PA relations lasted less than 2 years.

    I can remember that weekend like it was yesterday. I still can’t believe the players are this dumb… and then they get interviewed and i remember they are mostly drop-outs.

    Fehr = the man who destroyed baseball so completely that they needed massive doses of steroids to bring that game back to life.

  22. Racki says:

    Read the article on Schultz earlier.. good stuff. Great words by the quiet Paul Coffey. I’m sure he was a huge influence in Schultz coming here. Pulling out big guns Wayne and Paul definitely couldn’t have hurt any.

    As for the other article, good info.

    I wonder if we’d exercise our one time buyout or not (if that did get implemented). Everyone would immediately say “hell yes, on Horcoff”.. but I’m not totally sure we should or not. That one definitely makes the most sense to use it on, of all our contracts, but at this point, I’m not so sure it’s as big a concern anymore. His is easily the worst contract, but I don’t think any other contracts really bother me. On the whole, they add up to a number that should keep us well within the cap without any real need to go blow our wad on some UFA. So, by that reasoning, I’m not sure I feel we need to buy out Horcoff.

    It’s unbelievable, but after this year when we lose the Khabi-albatross, as well as Whitney’s contract (which is would be quite good, if he wasn’t hurt all the time), we’re actually sitting quite pretty, contract wise (with exception to the Horcoff contract which will only be around for another 2 years). We won’t be able to bank that buyout (has to be used before the start of next season, by the proposal), unfortunately.

    A Horcoff buyout at this point would be out of spite (i.e. hate for the contract he has) rather than need. But we do need another rock-solid goaltender (or our first, for that matter) and potentially a solid blueliner. But we’ll have Khabi’s $3,750,000, Whitney’s $4M, and Souray’s $1,500,000 to work with. I would hope that player’s due for a re-up will get marginal raises due to the partial year (Gagner, Smid in particular). If things looked too tight, then you might consider a Horcoff buyout.

    But if the CBA accepted also allows for trading of cap space, we’d likely be fine anyways.

    One CBA point I find interesting is this one:
    “Cap Advantage Recapture” formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC.”

    I’d say that’s overdue. I don’t know what the formula is and the consequences of cap space being recovered (i.e. , is it just cap space? if so, that’s no biggy and the PA might not mind it).

  23. dawgtoy says:

    Also, adding four more team to the playoffs is an aweful idea. Two more teams added to playoffs on a shortened season. 7 vs 10, 8 vs 9 seeds in a best of 3 or 5? Hate this idea!!!

  24. chucker says:

    dawgtoy:
    Also, adding four more team to the playoffs is an aweful idea. Two more teams added to playoffs on a shortened season. 7 vs 10, 8 vs 9 seeds in a best of 3 or 5? Hate this idea!!!

    Well, my bet is that we will be at 32 teams in a few years, so increasing the playoff teams makes sense on some level.

    Seattle, Markham, Houston, Kansas City are all potentials for relocations and expa,pensions. Heck, even Hamilton and Hartford, maybe even Portland.

  25. Racki says:

    Was the NHL talking about having more teams in this year’s playoffs (if there is a season)? I hadn’t heard that. I don’t think having more teams in the playoffs (even if permanently) is an awful idea given how big the league has expanded in the last few decades. 16 teams have made the playoffs since the league was 21 teams big. Now the league is almost 50% bigger and the same # of teams still make it.

    That said, I don’t see a need to change it either. I’m tired of us missing the playoffs year after year, but there are better ways to finagle our way into the playoffs than fucking with the rules. :lol:

  26. dawgtoy says:

    Time is running out for the draft…as I mentioned in the Forum we’d need to make this happen likely A.S.A.P

  27. gr8one says:

    Interesting, OKC signs Cheechoo.

  28. Racki says:

    Wow, I never heard that. I like that signing. Talk about a guy’s career falling apart though.. hard to believe the guy once scored 50 goals.

  29. dawgtoy says:

    9:00 PM – January 29 on Rogers Sportsnet West, Ontario & Pacific

    The first episode of Oil Change Game On, the third season of Aquila Productions’ critically-acclaimed documentary series about rebuilding the Oilers, premieres on Sportsnet on Wednesday, Jan 29 at 9 p.m.

  30. dawgtoy says:

    http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/115395

    Love it when keepers scrap. OilKings vs Hurricanes.

  31. LateNightOilFan says:

    I’ve had issues of visiting the site and it looking out-dated – no game previews/recaps, chats closed during games, Then by posting, everything looks normal and I can see the articles and comments that I couldn’t before. Weird. I felt like you guys moved away and didn’t tell me!

    Edit – and then I go back to the Home page and the last few games & comments are gone again. Help?

  32. Racki says:

    It sounds like it is caching on your side. Caches can be a bitch, and you aren’t the only one to mention this. What are you browsing on? Other person had problems on iPad i think.

  33. Racki says:

    Actually, I’m disabling the website’s cache. I have had some weird problems with this since day 1. Also Trogdor having the same problem on PC. I tested in a couple browsers I don’t use, and saw the same issue. So it’s definitely a problem on the site’s side. Disabling the cache seems to have worked. That sucks, cause it can speed things up/reduce server load.. but oh well.

  34. Racki says:

    LNOF: Some caching stuff was still lingering around. So the problem you spoke of wasn’t really YOUR computer. It was really still caching. Oddly enough, it seems to not cache in Chrome, but Firefox and IE show older versions for me.

    Anyways, I completely kicked the shit out of the cache stuff, and I think everything is all better now.. crossing my fingers.

  35. mrgod2u says:

    Am I the only one who is sick of our “High-Powered Offense” only scoring one goal per game (with some exceptions) we have great moves but where is the finish?

  36. NorwegianOiler says:

    mrgod2u:
    Am I the only one who is sick of our “High-Powered Offense” only scoring one goal per game (with some exceptions) we have great moves but where is the finish?

    Not at all!

  37. Racki says:

    Agreed. I think we need strength down the middle. And Hall and Ebs bad luck won’t last long though I’m sure. But I think we need some muscle with our skill and some face off prowess. You can’t tell me having our two top c go 40% on a GOOD night isn’t an impact. And they should be more willing to dump and chase.. Except on breakaways hall :P

    Our pp ia still a little too cute and often limited to under 2 shots

  38. dawgtoy says:

    Teddy Peckman is playing tonight vs Minny, Whitney is a HS.

  39. Metal&Oil says:

    Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet:

    If I am Coloraldo’s GM I don’t wait the week. I decline to match and walk away with the high 1st rounder smiling!!!

  40. dawgtoy says:

    Paajarvi-Gagner-Hemsky, Hall-RNH-Eberle, Jones-Belanger-Yakupov, Eager-Smyth-Brown. OMG NO! Smyth has been nothing short of terrible as a C. Yak gets to play with the offensively anemic Belanger. Yuk.

  41. dawgtoy says:

    Oilers have now updated the lines as …

    4-93-83
    91-88-14
    28-20-64
    55-94-13

  42. Racki says:

    Props from Horc for Mike Brown:

    “He got into two spirited fights. I would have liked to have seen us respond, too … a little bit better. We talked about that. But he’s been a really good addition for us … and the kid can really skate. He really brings what we’re looking for which is an uptempo style, and he’s great in the locker-room.”

    The part about “would have liked to have seen us respond..” is what I like most about that whole paragraph. It was obvious previous to yesterday that nothing was getting a reaction out of the group. They needed the defibrillator paddles.. that players only meeting plus the players returning did it… or so I hope. Even if we’re still going to struggle from here out.

  43. Metal&Oil says:

    Racki:
    Props from Horc for Mike Brown:

    “He got into two spirited fights. I would have liked to have seen us respond, too … a little bit better. We talked about that. But he’s been a really good addition for us … and the kid can really skate. He really brings what we’re looking for which is an uptempo style, and he’s great in the locker-room.”

    The part about “would have liked to have seen us respond..” is what I like most about that whole paragraph. It was obvious previous to yesterday that nothing was getting a reaction out of the group. They needed the defibrillator paddles.. that players only meeting plus the players returning did it… or so I hope. Even if we’re still going to struggle from here out.

    Well I can tell that your man crushing on Brown lately and with good reason. He defiantly is a Racki-Approved type of player. I though he was a FA after this year but I was happy to see we have him for next year as well. At least Tambellini won’t be able mismanage, letting him walk away for another year!!!

  44. Racki says:

    I didn’t realize he had another year either. Also, I was happy about this one when I first heard about the deal and did some digging on him. Definitely my kind of hockey player… For a fourth liner

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