General Discussion

By , September 30, 2009 6:18 pm

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  1. Racki says:

    He’s already in OKC… they don’t have to re-waive him.

    I’m not sure the exact rule on that though. I know if a player clears waivers, they don’t have to re-clear within the same 30 day period (unless they play more than 10 games). However, that exact rule shouldn’t apply here.

    Anyways, he’s in OKC, so there’s some other reason for it. I am guessing cause they just got him back 2 weeks-ish ago. Not sure.

  2. Mr.Majestyk says:

    If anyone’s interested Youngblood is on TSN right now!!

  3. Grass&sOIL says:

    Did a lil bit of research to see how The Nuge stacks up against the best rookie years in the NHL since the lockout:

    So far The Nuge is producing @ a 1.08 ppg average. This is the 4th best average for rookies in the NHL since the lockout.

    Alex Ovechkin 1.31 PPG * 2005-2006
    Sydney Crosby 1.26 PPG * 2005-2006
    Evgeni Malkin 1.09 PPG * 2006-2007
    The Nuge 1.08 PPG * So far 2011-2012

    Now the thing to also remember is that in the year following the lockout when Croz and AO put up those PPG averages Goal scoring in the NHL was at a post lockout high. This has been attributed to new rules that were put into place that year to increase goal scoring and the fact that there was an adjustment period for Dmen and goalies getting used to the new anti obstruction rules.

    Here is a chart that shows the goal scoring trends in the NHL(year by year) http://blogs.thescor…coring-by-year/

    This made things a tad bit easier on Crosby and Ovechkin when they were rookie in the year following the lockout.

    The Nuge is right up there with the very best rookie seasons in the post lockout era when this is considered.

  4. Racki says:

    Also should be noted was that Ovechkin’s first year was delayed by the lockout. He was actually 20 years old during his first year. Not to take anything away from him, obviously, since he’s a remarkable player. Just throwing that out there.

    Add to that, Crosby and The Nuge are the only two of those 4 that played in the NHL at 18. Malkin was in the RSL during the lock out, as well as the year following, so he joined the NHL at 20 as well.

    And I guess we shouldn’t get too ahead of ourselves here, because he should taper off a bit.. (but I actually don’t think he will.. the foot will stay on the gas).

  5. Grass&sOIL says:

    Yes another good point.

    And yes it is hare to not get ahead of ourselves here, heck I still can’t stop thinking about the Nuge we will see in 2-3 years time.

  6. Racki says:

    Again, not to get ahead of myself… but I figured I’d look and see what these guys had for points after 25 games in each of their rookie years:

    Evgeni Malkin – 15G, 15A, 30 pts
    Sidney Crosby – 12G, 16A, 28 pts
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins – 11G, 16A, 27 pts
    Alex Ovechkin – 15G, 10A, 25 pts

    Right on pace so far :P

    But hey, I don’t expect him to become Crosby or anything. Just saying it to point out just how remarkable this start really is.

  7. john says:

    Beginning to get extremely aggrevated with the performance of the Oilers against the Flames :( Both times these teams have met now the Oilers look like they just got out of the bar about 6hrs before puck drop; no speed, energy, physicality, or even interest in being there. I don’t get it. Both of those games the Oilers had the lead, & both games the Flames did not play particularly well in the 1st or 2nd periods. When you have the lead on a team that is not playing well (especially a divisional rival) it should be a given that you put the pedal to the metal & bury them. Not sure if it’s just complacency or that this team is just happy to get the odd win when everything goes there way?

  8. Grass&sOIL says:

    The Nuge is tied with Jonathan Toews in points by centers with 29 points each. Pretty incredible.

  9. hemmerlady says:

    yeah Nuge is 5th overall in points! Eberle is 6th in assists. Didn’t see either of those coming.

    We were scary in our end against the Flamers. It was not good.

  10. mrgod2u says:

    john:
    Beginning to get extremely aggrevated with the performance of the Oilers against the Flamers Both times these teams have met now the Oilers look like they just got out of the bar about 6hrs before puck drop; no speed, energy, physicality, or even interest in being there. I don’t get it. Both of those games the Oilers had the lead, & both games the Flamers did not play particularly well in the 1st or 2nd periods. When you have the lead on a team that is not playing well (especially a divisional rival) it should be a given that you put the pedal to the metal & bury them. Not sure if it’s just complacency or that this team is just happy to get the odd win when everything goes there way?

    Second night in a row game, 2nd time in the last month that we have played a divisional team as game 2 of a 2 game set. Best thing they can do is get off to a good start, becasue the legs are going to be sore by the 3rd. So if they looked flat in the 3rd… understandable.

  11. John says:

    mrgod2u: Second night in a row game, 2nd time in the last month that we have played a divisional team as game 2 of a 2 game set. Best thing they can do is get off to a good start, becasue the legs are going to be sore by the 3rd. So if they looked flat in the 3rd… understandable.

    Firstly they looked like crap in the first 2 periods, it’s not the 3rd I am worried about! The first 2 goals were lucky deflections not well executed hockey plays so take that away & you have a Flamer route. If back to back games is gonna be a constant excuse to lose (especially to division rivals) then this team will continue be be playoff free. The game against Calgary this coming Saturday will be the second half of a back to back as well so there’s another understandable loss I guess. This year it’s Calgary, next year the Oilers will probably get Vancouver or Colorado on the second night of back to backs all season so at some point these guys have to get over the mental & physical barricade & get some of those wins. Besides, this team (with the exception of @ 4 guys) is a bunch of 18-30 yr olds; if they don’t have the energy or legs to handle back to back games in December then I am VERY worried about them :(

  12. mrgod2u says:

    I think that being 1st in the west for a day or 2 raised some expectations. My prediction for the Oil this year was 10th in the West and only a point or 2 from 8th (or hopefully squeaking into 8th). The team is young and emotion is a knife that cuts both ways. Give them time and they will win, no-one likes watching their team lose but they will get better for it. This little break the last few days will see them playing a better game tonight.

  13. Racki says:

    I’m not too worried about the team. I agree with Mrgod2u here too. This team is a two-time 30th place team that is playing well most nights and in most games. They weren’t in it vs. the Flames at all, and my first thought was that they’ve been playing quite a few games lately. Even if that isn’t it, or isn’t a very good excuse, it’s all about how they follow it up. I’m hoping for a good bounce back game tonight.

  14. Racki says:

    Yay, the Leafs were sold. I’d start a thread about this, but you’ll get force fed this shit enough, as is.

    Bell owns part of the Canadiens and part of the Leafs. hmm.. interesting. First act as new Leafs owner is to force the Habs to take Kaberle. :P Just kidding, I think Kaberle will be better as a Hab. But who knows.

  15. gr8one says:

    Awesome interview with Kirill Tulopov.(credit to Copper&Blue for pointing me there)

    http://artfulpuck.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/kirill-tulupov-okc-barons/

    Just love this guy, I really hope he polishes his game enough to make it…he’s exactly the type of player we could use on our team, passionate, hardworking, huge, and tough as hell..with a little bit of psycho thrown in.

  16. Grass&sOIL says:

    Tell me about I have been seeing this everywhere today. Man oh man did the stars align for that one :)

  17. hemmerlady says:

    @Racki: that’s HILARIOUS. Is that photoshopped or real? I love that.

  18. Grass&sOIL says:

    It is the real deal. It has been all over twitter for the last few days.

  19. Racki says:

    The Canadiens have axed Jacques Martin (since Pierre Gauthier can’t fire himself…).

    Randy Cunneyworth takes over as interim head coach for the remainder of the season. Larry Carriere named Assistant Coach.

  20. zackman35 says:

    Wow Turris to OTT for David Rundblad + 2nd. Does thy mean we could have got this guy for Gagner + 2nd? Holy man, I would have been so happy to see ST make that trade.

    Good trade for both teams but PHX won this one by a mile in my opinion.

  21. Racki says:

    You wanted Turris? Like I said before, I don’t quite share the fascination people have with him. He’s proven less than Gagner, but we want to give Gagner plus more for him? I am glad that didn’t happen.

    I think I’m growing more and more inclined to see Gagner traded, but I don’t think that bringing in another high risk guy would be a good idea.

    Interesting that PHX pulled the trigger finally, though.

  22. NorwegianOiler says:

    Seems to me that Turris is yet another ‘project’, not worth the price in my opinion. I’d rather have Rundblad, a very good 2-way defense prospect, than Turris. The second tops it off well for the Yotes.

    Ottawa needed another project now that Filatov flew back to Rooosia.

  23. zackman35 says:

    Oh no I definitely meant Gags + 2nd for Rundblad.

  24. dawgtoy says:

    Good trade for Quebec Phoenix.

  25. NorwegianOiler says:

    zackman35:
    Oh no I definitely meant Gags + 2nd for Rundblad.

    :D

  26. Racki says:

    This one kind of slipped through the cracks a bit, and I forgot to mention it, but yesterday the OKC Barons signed Kirill Tulupov to a contract.

  27. Racki says:

    dawgtoy:
    Good trade for Quebec Phoenix.

    Oh that makes a lot more sense. I wouldn’t have minded him either. Not sure I’d part with Gagner and 2nd or not though. I know his offensive potential is top notch though.. just haven’t heard enough positives about his d-game yet. But for sure, I would have liked to have seen him here for say Omark plus.

  28. Racki says:

    Credit to Trogdor for digging this awesome link up:

    The Link

  29. Alan-NottsUK says:

    Oilers have been doing hospital visits, and whoever decided where to send players was a genius.

    Nikolai Khabibulin at the Glenrose Rehabilitation Hospital

  30. Racki says:

    Nice. My mom was in the hospital a few years back and got to meet Marty Reasoner, Zack Stortini and Ladi Smid. She had no idea who they really were (she was a fan back in the glory days, and lost interest eventually) but was still really happy to see them. They were all really great and cheered people up. It’s great when athletes get involved in the community like this as it can really pick up peoples’ spirits.

  31. hemmerlady says:

    is it wrong that I’m cheering for the Flamers tonight? Well not cheering but hoping that they beat Van, or at worst give them a loser point. Anyone But Canucks…the whiny westernmost team.

  32. Racki says:

    In games like that, I cheer for the arena to collapse. Oh and never cheer for loser points in matchups with our conference teams! :P Although the way things are going, we’re done like dinner. Will take a miracle run at some point to get back in the playoff mix.

    I have a pretty strong hatred for both Van and Cgy. Not sure I care who wins there, as long as it isn’t a 3 point game.

  33. hemmerlady says:

    Racki:
    In games like that, I cheer for the arena to collapse.

    Yeah! that’s a better idea.

    Oh and never cheer for loser points in matchups with our conference teams! Although the way things are going, we’re done like dinner. Will take a miracle run at some point to get back in the playoff mix.
    I have a pretty strong hatred for both Van and Cgy. Not sure I care who wins there, as long as it isn’t a 3 point game.

    yeah of course you’re right, don’t want to give away an extra point to a team within our conference. I haven’t looked at the standings lately in the hopes it will improve in the absence of my viewing it.

    I was pleased that the flamers stuck it to the nuckleheads last night. Take em down a peg. I guess I’m definitely in the “cheer against the flamers unless they’re playing vancouver” camp. I think it’s worse because I live here and the obnoxiousness and bandwagonism is right in my face.

  34. oilinblood says:

    A merry christmas, happy belated solstice/ascention -birth of new sun to everyone.

  35. zackman35 says:

    I was at the Rebels game last night, saw Dumba play. A few things stuck out, Med Hat was definitely the weaker team but Bunz held them in there really good made around 40 saves for the shutout and only had one mental lapse really.

    As for Dumba, well the whole team, there was no lightning in the bottle last night. There was a couple of big checks and a decent open ice hit but for the most night no one really finished there checks and it was a pretty soft game. Maybe too much turkey? Dumba logged a ton of ice time and was really good QB’ing the PPs. Great communication on his part, he controled the power play/set things up and when he had the puck people watched, he understands the game really well. His slapshot is far from NHL caliber though at least it was this game. He didn’t seem to throw around his body too much last night either but then again the team was pretty soft.

    I’m lucky enough to go to the Team Canada game tonight, I’m really excited for that! I Aldo get to go to the Rebels vs Kelowna game Thursday so I’ll put on my scouting goggles. Maybe I’ll send him a tweet saying scouts could be at the game that night (pretty sure he assumes anyway).

  36. G&S says:

    Hello everyone. Don’t forget that a new episode of Oil Change airs in 1 hour on CITY TV !!! I wanna see how Renney acts in the locker room between periods. Lets hope there is some emotion there.

  37. dawgtoy says:

    Na Na Na Na , Na Na Na Na , Hey Hey Hey Goodbye to team USA at the World Junior Championships.

  38. Steve-O says:

    G&S:
    Hello everyone. Don’t forget that a new episode of Oil Change airs in 1 hour on CITY TV !!! I wanna see how Renney acts in the locker room between periods. Lets hope there is some emotion there.

    Missed that one, but it is also repeating on sportsnet on sunday at 9

  39. dawgtoy says:

    Oilers playing Finn swap today calling up Hartikainen and sending down Petrell. I love this move as I’ve stated Hartikainen should have been on the team from the start. This team needs size and strength on the wing. Also secondary scoring must be addressed, he likely would have been recalled earlier had he not been injured. I wish they could have kept Petrell up and sent somebody else down, but at least they will give Lander a winger with skill to play with on the fourth.

  40. Racki says:

    I like it, I like it. I am a big fan of Hartikainen too. I thought Petrell played well, and as I expected he would though.

    But to quote OG77: “They should send the whole team down and bring up the farm team.”

  41. G&S says:

    There were a lot of ppl who thought that Hartikainen should have started the year with the Oilers but now he can play in every remaining Oiler game and still be eligible to return to the Barons for the playoffs in the AHL.

    Hartikainen is 21 so once he plays in 60 NHL games he will lose his exemption from waivers. He played 12 games last year and can now play in all 45 remaining games for the Oilers without losing his waiver status.

    Good move by management ! If this foresight was really used in the decision????

  42. dawgtoy says:

    Don’t look now, but the Oilers have recalled Josh Green and Colten Teubert…? This could get ugly if the injury bug is here to stay. Smid is our best D in the line-up, ZOINKS! On another note, sporting my Canada Jersey and Canada hat and Canada scarf and well you get the picture. GO CANADA GO!

  43. Racki says:

    Yah, with any luck the Barons have built a strong enough buffer to keep themselves in the playoff race. They currently sit in first in the AHL though! That is fantastic. I don’t want to see the wheels fall off the bus because of the Oilers. A successful farm team is good to help keep an NHL team strong for years.

  44. dawgtoy says:

    Renney clearly is getting frustrated with Hemsky.
    “I’ve gotta play him. Manpower situation being what it is, his skill level, his ability to turn a game around.”, says Renney. “I’ll keep playing him till someone tells me not to, or I get to the point where we need to change the scenery. I’m not to that point yet.”
    Clearly not a vote of confidence from the coach.

  45. hemmerlady says:

    yeah, so apparently Canada gets penalized for Russia high-sticking their own teammate. BS!!

  46. Racki says:

    Over at Puck Daddy they suggest a Dwayne Roloson for Nikolai Khabibulin swap. Each have had great success with the other players’ current teams. What do you think? We’d shed a year of contract in that deal. I’d definitely do it, as I think Roli is as good or better than Khabibulin, and we shed a contract year.

  47. hemmerlady says:

    @ Racki – If you would have asked me this time last year, I would have been all over it. But now, I’m thinking not? because of each goalie’s respective performance this year. Khabi = No-Goalski 5000 (trademark: Chucker?). Roli= I can’t think of anything clever that represents his playing like complete garbage.

    Although at this point……I’m not going to say it.

    I do like Roli and I’m by no means suggesting his team’s performance rests entirely on his shoulders. But I think he’s more of a playoff/clutch guy. and we need to make the playoffs first. Zing! :’(

    Well, season’s not over…and strangely other teams, such as Anaheim, are a lot worse off than we are. I should know, I have 3 Ducks in my pool. no pun intended.

    Edit: correction, trademark Mr. God2U.

  48. Racki says:

    My thoughts are just that it helps us shed a year of contract. All of us fans live very much in the moment. If a guy’s having a great year, we want to hang on to him, even if he just came off 2 bad years (Khabibulin’s case). If he’s having a bad year, we want him gonzo, even if he’s coming off several very good years (arguably Hemsky.. although probably not the best example.. but I’m sure you can think of your own).

    In my opinion, Khabibulin is just holding the fort for us until something better comes along. And I could even say that we can’t get something better while Khabi is still here. So my thoughts are to make the deal just for the sake that Roli would be gone at the end of the year. No more high priced, unreliable goaltending. Khabi has had 1 good year (partial, to boot) of the 3 years he’s been here.

    I’d say we cut the guy loose as part of our attempt to get this team more solidified for the future. There are some good names (as per usual) on the UFA market this coming July 1st. They could go after a guy around 30-ish for a contract of Khabi dollars.

    The other option is to forego trading for Roloson and just jettison Khabibulin for a pick or something of that nature, since he’s hot right now.

    Either way, I say we move Khabi while the getting is good.

  49. hemmerlady says:

    i see your point. we do seem to ‘ride the tide’ with the players, the nutbar fans more so.

    I definitely agree that Khabi is just holding the fort, maybe until Dubey gets his wings or we luck into an affordable pro-star somehow. I think i’d be concerned to let go of something that seems to be working – sometimes I worry that management is too quick to let go of things that are working. Khabi’s been surprisingly great. Roli’s been really inconsistent and we don’t need that, so I’d be hesitant before making that deal. It’s just so hard to know how a guy is going to play in a few years’ time – Khabi’s a prime example. Next year he could have a terrible year.

    I could see moving Khabi while he’s hot. That’s a good point. Regardless, until we address our D problems, we’re screwed. If trading Khabi is part of the solution to that problem, I’m behind it 100%. Impossible to tell without a crystal ball.

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