General Discussion

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  1. gr8one says:

    Yeah, and perhaps I shouldn’t be so quick to say “we got lucky”…just because it’s tracking a bit away from us now I guess it could still very easily track slightly west and get us good, but at least it looks promising for us so far.

    good luck and keep us posted if you can…if not, we’ll be thinking of you too!

  2. gr8one says:

    Doesn’t it just sound bizarre and far fetched that 4 seasons ago, Horcoff had a 73 point season? How about 2 seasons ago 20 goals and 50 points in 53 games before getting hurt.

    Is it that far out of the realm of possibility that we can’t see a totally healthy Horcoff rebound with say a 20g/60p season?

    You think it’s out of the realm of possibility for Gagner to be a 20g/50 point man? Brule had 17 in only 65 games last year, so we could very well have another 20g scorer there. Penner good for another 35? Hemsky 25?

    Between Hall/Paajarvi/Eberle you have to think one can pot 20 and between the other two average 15 each?

    That leaves the following, and what I think could be reasonable goal totals for them:

    Cogs- 16
    Fraser- 10
    Jones- 7
    Stortini- 5

    add in another cumulative total of say 15g between the reserves like JFJ/O’Marra/MacIntyre/Omark.

    Forward totals- 223

    Now how about Defensive goals?

    Whitney- 12
    Gilbert- 10
    Foster- 10
    Smid- 6
    Vandermeer-3

    Cumulative Totals of say Pecks/Struds/Plante/Petry etc…another 10?

    Defense totals- 51

    Team Total- 274.

    Now, looking at those numbers, maybe I’m erring on the side of optimism in a lot of cases, but I don’t think I’m being completely unreasonable, and in some cases I’m probably being a little too conservative.

    Last year the only team that scored more than that was Washington with a phenomenal 318. Vancouver was second with 272.

    So let’s say I’m am being overly optimistic and chop 35 goals off of my above total, that would still leave us with 239 goals, which would still have put us top 10 in the NHL last year(8th to be exact). It also would be a full 25 goals more than last year.

    I think it’s probably fair to say that our D/goaltending can’t be any worse than it was last year either, and IF we can get some steady goaltending, I think our D is probably better overall in our own zone than last years bunch, so I think it’s fair to say we could probably shave say 15 goals against off of what we had last year?

    That would be a total of a 40 goal swing in our favor this season…definitely not last place overall hockey.

    This season just might not be as bad as a lot think.

  3. Bostonoiler says:

    Off topic here, Gr8one, Hopefully your not gonna get hit by Earl, that bastard is making a course right for me lol

  4. Bostonoiler says:

    Oh, btw I saw on Twitter Ek is picking BOTH the Oilers and Leafs to sneak in this season.

  5. Racki says:

    gr8one: I think the over-optimism comes from the numbers being more suited to if they all had top pp billing and #1 line ice time. I think in order to have Horcoff hit those numbers, he has to be the #1C (which he might be), otherwise he’ll fall hugely short of that. But if he’s #1C, that means Gagner is with the kids, and I think that it would be expecting a lot for him and two rookies to really light it up. You really never know though. But I think if Gagner centers the kids, he’ll have to rely a lot on the PP time for points.

    On defense, Smid seems to have some sort of Strudwickian-suck, so I think we can count him for maybe 2. :P The numbers for Whitney/Gilbert are probably realistic now that they’re playing together. Foster is a tough call, as I think he could be our #1PP guy, so 10 might be a good number (but then you’d have to guess that either Whitney or Gilbert suffer a bit). 32 between 3 of them might be a bit high.

    All this is just guess work too. You very well good be right. I can’t wait to see, in particular, if the young kids catch fire. For all we know, Hall could be a natural.. or Eberle… or MPS.

    Anyways, before season starts, I’m going to throw together a post of my player expectations/predictions and we can all put our guesses in there too (and laugh at the end of the year).

    Bostonoiler: stop reading Eklund Twatwaffle. That is all.

  6. Bostonoiler says:

    Racki: gr8one: I think the over-optimism comes from the numbers being more suited to if they all had top pp billing and #1 line ice time. I think in order to have Horcoff hit those numbers, he has to be the #1C (which he might be), otherwise he’ll fall hugely short of that. But if he’s #1C, that means Gagner is with the kids, and I think that it would be expecting a lot for him and two rookies to really light it up. You really never know though. But I think if Gagner centers the kids, he’ll have to rely a lot on the PP time for points. On defense, Smid seems to have some sort of Strudwickian-suck, so I think we can count him for maybe 2. The numbers for Whitney/Gilbert are probably realistic now that they’re playing together. Foster is a tough call, as I think he could be our #1PP guy, so 10 might be a good number (but then you’d have to guess that either Whitney or Gilbert suffer a bit). 32 between 3 of them might be a bit high. All this is just guess work too. You very well good be right. I can’t wait to see, in particular, if the young kids catch fire. For all we know, Hall could be a natural.. or Eberle… or MPS. Anyways, before season starts, I’m going to throw together a post of my player expectations/predictions and we can all put our guesses in there too (and laugh at the end of the year).Bostonoiler: stop reading Eklund Twatwaffle Twatwaffle. That is all.

    IT WAS A RE-TWEET THO I SWEAR I DIDN’T READ IT!!! IT GOT RE-TWEETED AND I SAW HIS POST!!! :(

  7. gr8one says:

    lol, I read Eklund Twatwaffle everyday. I find it enetertaining, I take it for what it is, and I don’t care if he makes a living off bogus rumors or not, so I have no problems visiting that site. But really, there is almost always a good read there at least once a day from one of the other team bloggers.

    And Racki, yeah…I know I’m being optimistic and you make a great point about PP time, which is why I shaved 35 goals off my original number, you think I shoulda shaved off more?

  8. Steve-O says:

    Last year I was called optimistic for guessing 200. Should be a better team this year. 230.

  9. Racki says:

    I don’t know yet gr8one.. I’ll do up my (likely also over-optimistic) totals later on and let you know what I think is reasonable.

    But I just can’t support that douche. lol You guys go ahead and keep visiting and plugging his site, but I might ban you for bringing his name up (just kidding!).

    Boston Oiler: I’m only teasing ;) hah

  10. LateNightOilFan says:

    Bostonoiler: Off topic here, Gr8one, Hopefully your not gonna get hit by Earl, that bastard is making a course right for me lol

    Good luck BO!

    gr8one, are you affected by the evacuations or is that north of you? Bet it’s getting pretty intense right now.

    As of now looks like a miss with respect to landfall for my area of NS but it’s headed straight into the Bay of Fundy. Saturday will be an adventure!

  11. gr8one says:

  12. gr8one says:

    *sigh*

    another post marked for moderation…

  13. Racki says:

    Uhm, no post came in as spam.. not sure what happened to whatever your post was. And not sure why you have trouble now and then. Weird (Seriously, stop spamming, asshole.. haha kidding)

  14. gr8one says:

    it was the above one that’s “…”

    I just gave up and deleted the post down to that^.

    It had said “awaiting moderation”, and I guess since I changed to to just 3 dots is why you didn’t get anything showing spam.

  15. Steve-O says:

    I un-spammed it

  16. victoriaoilerfan says:

    O/T:
    Penguins sign Comrie. Wow, didn’t see that coming.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332520

  17. Mr.Majestyk says:

    That signing is just further evidence that if you are a good team, you will get players at bargain prices. Spend what you need on elite level players because its easier to fill in the roster with cheap players. I can’t see how this is a bad signing at all.

    Wait, did Crosby call Comrie to welcome him to the team, or to ask if Haylie Duff is single?



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