General Discussion

By , September 30, 2009 6:18 pm

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  1. Metal&Oil says:

    Apparently Mike Green is now an Oiler. Ryan Whitney + going to the Caps. Works for me :) Not confirmed yet though.

    Edit. Seems I’ve fallen for a fake Twitter account again lol.

  2. Racki says:

    Oh jesus. lol

    I heard about this… check Twitter followers… look at their tweets (if you look, this guy is clearly a fake.. ex: calling gene principe a fucking idiot).

    Be smart! ;)

    That would have been a nice deal though if Green wasn’t so severely overpaid.

  3. dawgtoy says:

    Martin Gernat signs three-year entry-level contract with Oilers

  4. Racki says:

    Yah, people were getting antsy about that one. I wasn’t too worried. Then again, I’m not as big a Gernat fan as some in Oil Country. Not that I think he’ll be bad or anything.. just see him a little further down our depth chart. As I have always said though.. I like my defenseman to be able to defend.

  5. Metal&Oil says:

    Oilers twitter: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will fly to Cleveland today to have his shoulder examined. Surgery is likely, will miss remainder of season.

    Why did they wait so long to have this looked at? Souray was right. This team is absolutely incompetent with it’s handling of injured players. Sigh……

  6. Racki says:

    The Oilers also fired their entire training staff since Souray was here. I think we’ve also seen this before where a team felt that no more damage could likely be done to a player, and they play through it. Not to give the Oilers a free pass or anything. They could have pulled the plug a little sooner, but I think when we were hanging in a playoff spot, the temptation to keep him around would have been quite strong.

    At any rate, I’m sure the Oilers aren’t exactly free of any blame, but just not sure all the details. If the Oilers are pushing players too hard, I suppose it’s possible it could be from all the way up the chain to that guy who would play through broken ribs, among other injuries.

  7. hemmerlady says:

    So Yak wasn’t even nominated for the Calder even though he held the scoring lead? I figured he’d probably lose to Gallagher eventually but… Seriously???

  8. Metal&Oil says:

    Good luck to the Barons in the AHL Western Conference Finals !!! That is a team that is firing on all cylinders right now. This is the Barons 2nd consecutive trip to the 3rd round of the AHL playoffs and Todd Nelson is making a compelling case for a job opportunity in the big leagues. I would like to see him brought up to the Oilers as an assistant coach before some other team snatches him up. His team actually improved post NHL lockout.

  9. Metal&Oil says:

    MacT has called a presser for 4PM. Many think it will be to announce a new Captain but I think it will be coaching related.

  10. Racki says:

    It is indeed… Dallas Eakins in, Krueger out, apparently. I hope Eakins brings an entire new coaching staff.

    Also, I thought coach at first too, but changed my mind when Rishaug tweeted saying he can confirm Maurice wasn’t hired (that’s who I thought they’d announce). So then I thought, OK .. not him.. probably a trade or Hall captaincy.

    But TSN says they think Eakins is in, and Krueger out (no associate)

  11. Racki says:

    Just as a heads up, the Foil is moving to a new server in the near future. During this time, there might be some downtime here and there.. or even long periods (I don’t anticipate anything longer than a few days though).

  12. Metal&Oil says:

    Very odd and surprising news about Kovalchuk. Now the Devils need to replace that offense as best they can.

    Hemsky with us retaining $1M in cap + our 2014 1st round pick (since ironically the devils don’t have a pick in 2014 :) ) for Adam Larrson.

  13. Racki says:

    If the Devils would do that, i would do it in a heart beat. Hell, I’d take half of Hemmer’s cap hit for that.

  14. Metal&Oil says:

    Racki:
    If the Devils would do that, i would do it in a heart beat. Hell, I’d take half of Hemmer’s cap hit for that.

    Yeah I doubt the devils would do that. Perhaps if Petry was included in the conversation it might make it more tempting for them.

  15. Racki says:

    Yah I think if we’re putting Petry in the equation, it immediately becomes a more pointless deal, unfortunately. Maybe a guy like Marincin?

    Edit: actually with RHD depth of Larsson, Petry and J. Schultz, you’d have to wonder who would get relegated to line 3.. probably not a good deal to make. Right idea though.

  16. NorwegianOiler says:

    Aaaand Grebeshkov is back! Adds depth, certainly, but will it help? I liked his skillset, harmless contract length, but I don’t really understand the logic. We apparently chase Coburn, the complete opposite of Grebeshkov, for weeks and then this? We look for skilled wingers with size and add Perron.

    Is this the end for Nicky Schultz? If they trade Smid I will likely not like the trade.

  17. John says:

    I am at a loss as to understand how Grebs improves our defence, unless he learned how to be a more complete Dman in Russia! There is also that Danish Dman Larsen who is also a question mark as to his fit on the team. I sort of get MacT’s theory on bringing oodles of defencemen to training camp & letting them all battle for a couple spots but just because a guy plays well for 3 weeks during training camp & pre-season doesn’t mean he’s the right guy to take a roster spot for the season.

  18. Racki says:

    This definitely doesn’t bode well for someone on the roster… whether it’s minor players like Potter and Larsen, or someone big like Smid, someone’s going to go. If it’s Smid, it should be for a pretty big deal. I hope that big deal is bigger than Coburn. As much as I like him, I don’t like him enough to give up Smid.

    Anyways, I don’t mind the Grebeshkov pick up. It’s odd, but I’d imagine will do some roster flush before season starts and he could stick around and play with his countryman on line 3 pairing. Perhaps they’re doing all they can to make Yakupov feel at home here, or something. It would explain a couple of this year’s draft picks.

    As for Nick Schultz, I personally don’t mind him, but let’s face it.. he fetches next to nothing in a trade. They probably should move him, of the D that are here, based on value for your buck.. but yah.. can’t be a long line wanting to enlist his services.

    My guess is closer to the start of the season, Potter hits waivers and is claimed by a team looking for a little extra depth.

  19. Metal&Oil says:

    Racki:
    This definitely doesn’t bode well for someone on the roster… whether it’s minor players like Potter and Larsen, or someone big like Smid, someone’s going to go. If it’s Smid, it should be for a pretty big deal. I hope that big deal is bigger than Coburn. As much as I like him, I don’t like him enough to give up Smid.

    Anyways, I don’t mind the Grebeshkov pick up. It’s odd, but I’d imagine will do some roster flush before season starts and he could stick around and play with his countryman on line 3 pairing. Perhaps they’re doing all they can to make Yakupov feel at home here, or something. It would explain a couple of this year’s draft picks.

    As for Nick Schultz, I personally don’t mind him, but let’s face it.. he fetches next to nothing in a trade. They probably should move him, of the D that are here, based on value for your buck.. but yah.. can’t be a long line wanting to enlist his services.

    Nick Schultz’s value will skyrocket at the trade deadline once most of his salary has been paid. Contending teams always covet soon to be UFA blueliners like Nick at that time of the year.

  20. Racki says:

    Metal&Oil: Nick Schultz’s value will skyrocket at the trade deadline once most of his salary has been paid. Contending teams always covet soon to be UFA blueliners like Nick at that time of the year.

    Yah that’s true.. they won’t have time to wait that long though before they have to make a decision on someone. But they can cart him around until the deadline and see where things are with the team. By then they should hopefully be finally in a position where they’ll need all they help they can get though.

  21. NorwegianOiler says:

    Well, it seems to me that Washington might be a good place to start for the Oilers right now. I’ve been waiting for rumours of someone like Brooks Laich, who is a big, top 6 capable center. Since the Caps lost Mike Ribeiro, who was quite effective in their system, they might like Sam Gagner, who has a similar skillset. Between Laich and Gagner, Sammy is certainly the most talented player and the one with the biggest future, but if the Oilers could build upon the deal it might become more interesting. Say two birds with one stone? Ales Hemsky could be a nice option for the Caps?

    Perhaps Brooks Laich, Troy Brouwer and a lesser piece (draft pick or outside prospect) for Sam Gagner’s rights, Ales Hemsky and Nick Schultz? They have the cap space, get two gifted players and a steady defenseman, we get marginally older, and somewhat less skill in return for a good compete level and some strength. A clear problem is that both Laich and Brouwer have modified NTCs, but what do we know, maybe they would like a new challenge?

    Hall – Nuge – Eberle
    Perron – Laich – Yakupov
    Jones – Gordon – Brouwer
    Smyth – Someone? – Someone?

    Smid – Petry
    Ference – J. Schultz
    Grebeshkov – Belov (better let Giveaway Grebbie play his natural side)

    Doobie
    Labbie

    If we could add a Coburn/Johnny Boychuk to the back end and a 4th line center that can actually play ice hockey this could be a fair roster.

  22. john says:

    Peckham signed by the Blackhawks: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428032

    Lots of Hawks fans delighted about the addition of Theo, expecting a legit heavy weight defenceman who can fit right in. Interesting how perspective works! Hope the best for Wreck’em Peckham but not here.

  23. Racki says:

    I think Chicago will make a very good D out of him. If not, well, there is no hope for him then. I think he’s a good kid who struggled early with his fitness, and then the Oilers seem to completely give up on him. I think he can be that solid defensive defenseman he was a couple/few years ago, with a little bit of work.

    I think most people know how much I liked this guy.. just one minor step below M&O’s man-crush. I honestly hate that we just let him go for nothing, because I think this is making up for our fleecing the Leafs for Jason Smith.

  24. NorwegianOiler says:

    NorwegianOiler:
    Well, it seems to me that Washington might be a good place to start for the Oilers right now. I’ve been waiting for rumours of someone like Brooks Laich, who is a big, top 6 capable center. Since the Caps lost Mike Ribeiro, who was quite effective in their system, they might like Sam Gagner, who has a similar skillset. Between Laich and Gagner, Sammy is certainly the most talented player and the one with the biggest future, but if the Oilers could build upon the deal it might become more interesting. Say two birds with one stone? Ales Hemsky could be a nice option for the Caps?

    Perhaps Brooks Laich, Troy Brouwer and a lesser piece (draft pick or outside prospect) for Sam Gagner’s rights, Ales Hemsky and Nick Schultz? They have the cap space, get two gifted players and a steady defenseman, we get marginally older, and somewhat less skill in return for a good compete level and some strength. A clear problem is that both Laich and Brouwer have modified NTCs, but what do we know, maybe they would like a new challenge?

    Hall – Nuge – Eberle
    Perron – Laich – Yakupov
    Jones – Gordon – Brouwer
    Smyth – Someone? – Someone?

    Smid – Petry
    Ference – J. Schultz
    Grebeshkov – Belov (better let Giveaway Grebbie play his natural side)

    Doobie
    Labbie

    If we could add a Coburn/Johnny Boychuk to the back end and a 4th line center that can actually play ice hockey this could be a fair roster.

    With Gagner’s demand for 5.5M in arbitration I stand even firmer behind the above idea. Not that he’ll get that, but even 5M is too steep for me. Fuck, what is it with these demands? Want to win? How about not taking every little crumb off the table so the club can finance a better overall roster…

  25. Racki says:

    Yah $5.5M isn’t going to work here, and I agree that $5M is even hard to swallow. Oilers are offering $3.5M (which I think most would agree is too low, but this is a negotiation). I think they hope to meet half-way in the middle. $4.5M is a fair price. It isn’t a home town discount, but it isn’t a rip off either.

    I think if the Oilers can’t bring him under $5M, they’re really fucked. But would you let Gagner go to UFA next year? That’s what will happen, and Gagner and his agent are well aware of this. That’s the bargaining chip… take my offer, or you’re giving me UFA next year. Its a shitty, hardball tactic, but it is what it is. The window to trade him is less than 48 hours now.

    The other option is to go for Grabovski (not as talented as Gagner, but oh well) and see if he comes in around $4m or less.. if he does, well, that’s probably better value. Gagner’s offensive talents are supreme, but we all know he is quite lacking in other areas such as faceoff ability, size, and defensive play. Grabovski won’t bring the same offense, probably, but he’ll bring enough at a better price.

    I have to figure MacT has been working the phones for a trade.. a desperate GM is never going to get the deal he wants though.

  26. Metal&Oil says:

    Can’t say I am at all happy about Rajala being cut loose. Anyone know why he is leaving? I’ve seen some reports of it being a team decision and others saying it was Toni’s choice. It’s too bad, I thought he was gonna turn into something down the line. Barons are probably gonna be in trouble next year.

  27. Racki says:

    Jim Matheson said he was jumping ship to Europe this year. The Oilers decided they didn’t want to carry another contract around that they couldn’t do anything with right now, so they cut him loose.

    I don’t like assets getting away for free, but I’m not too terribly upset. The guy is 165 lbs… that is a giant concern. It might work well in the minors or in Europe, but it’s going to be the last thing this Oilers team needs. I know size isn’t everything in hockey, but the Oilers really need to get bigger skill guys. It’s definitely not a good thing this happened.. I don’t think.. but I’m not so sure it’s a bad thing either. The Oilers also typically hover around the 50-man roster limit, and I’m not sure I like that either.

    I’m also sure they tried shopping him first, to no avail. You know if no one takes him on waivers that he has zero value to other teams out there right now.

  28. Racki says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=430368

    Great interview between James Duthie and Roberto Luongo… worth a watch. Seems that he was almost traded last year too.. was in the office to sign the forms to waive his NTC when Gillis came in and said the deal fell through.

    Said he got emotional from that and “may have cried in front of another man”. LOL

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