Philadelphia Flyers and Shea Weber agree to terms on offer sheet

By , July 18, 2012 11:18 pm

Per Darren Dreger, the Philadelphia Flyers have agreed to an offersheet with Shea Weber of the Nashville Predators. The deal is reportedly worth approximately $100M over 14 years.

22 Responses to “Philadelphia Flyers and Shea Weber agree to terms on offer sheet”

  1. Metal&Oil says:

    Huge Breaking News!!!!

    Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match.

    As per Derren Dreger Twitter.

    WOW
    WOW
    WOW

    In my eyes the Preds have no choice but to match this.

  2. Racki says:

    Holy crap. I think a lot of people figured last year that Weber would be a good target for an offersheet… but how many still saw it coming?

    That’s unreal.

    Now do the Predators match? I’m actually inclined to think they will.

  3. Metal&Oil says:

    Apparently (according to Dreger again):

    1) Nashville was working on a trade and its believed several deadlines passed before Flyers grew tired of waiting. Weber signed offer sheet.

    2) A number of teams were in on a possible Shea Weber trade. If Preds don’t match, they receive 4- 1st round picks as compensation.

    This leads me to believe that Weber wants out of Nashville. I wonder if the Oilers were one of the teams in pursuit of Shea???

    I think Nashville will match the offer and then continue to seek other offers for Shea that gets them better value then the 4 1st round picks that the Flyers would have to part with (Dreger also mentioned that it could possibly be 2 firsts, 2nd and a 3rd round pick if Preds don’t match based on the official aav)

    Those picks from the Flyers will all more then Likely be late round picks and the Preds could probably get more if they match and trade at a later date.

  4. oilinblood says:

    good move by Weber. These contracts are not gonna be around next summer. I imagine Shea got offers last year but didnt sign anything. This summer is much different with Suter leaving.
    I would like to think the Oilers were willing to talk with the preds. Manage with intelligence NOT desperation. Philly stinks of desperation. Everyone ends up sucking when they go there. RIP shea. Another long contract leading no where…motivation evaporated, accountability, non-existent.

    Nash will match. the 26 Mill in 365 days is tough but… i think Poile does it. gut the team. start the rebuild now. Trade weber next year. until then you work him like a fukkin dog.
    A GM who takes this as an attack…could get awfully dirty in how he handles this.

    Personally id trade alot of players…after matching… and start a rebuild. then trade him next summer to pitts for some real good pieces.
    I think detroit was ahead in the weber sweepstakes which is why this was done.

  5. dawgtoy says:

    OUCH! 110 Million dollars breaks down as follows as per twitter.
    1st 4 yrs 1Mill in salary+13M signing bonus
    Years 5-6 4Mill in salary + 8M signing bonus
    Years 7-10 6Mill salary
    year 11 3Mill salary
    last 3 yrs 1Mill salary
    Smart move to take this while you can, this will close with the next CBA. Does Nashville have the upfront money to match this contract? For their sake I hope so.

  6. Racki says:

    I think Nashville matches. They can’t afford to lose both Weber and Suter. They might as well hand over the team to the NHL at that point, if you ask me. That’s a lot of up front cash though. Maybe they’ll try and wheel and deal him next year if they match.

  7. Metal&Oil says:

    Racki:
    I think Nashville matches. They can’t afford to lose both Weber and Suter. They might as well hand over the team to the NHL at that point, if you ask me. That’s a lot of up front cash though. Maybe they’ll try and wheel and deal him next year if they match.

    If the match and try to trade him after the 1 calendar year then the Preds will have already paid Weber close to 1/4 of the total $’s on his contract. That’s a tough sell for Preds ownership.

  8. Racki says:

    Metal&Oil: If the match and try to trade him after the 1 calendar year then the Preds will have already paid Weber close to 1/4 of the total $’s on his contract. That’s a tough sell for Preds ownership.

    Yah, but the problem is they can’t trade him for 1 year if they match the offer. So yes, it would suck for them for sure… but they can’t trade him before that big chunk of change is up. Either way, I guess they’re screwed, and I’m sure the Flyers thought that out in advance… try and make it as hard on Preds to match as possible.

  9. Metal&Oil says:

    Racki: Yah, but the problem is they can’t trade him for 1 year if they match the offer. So yes, it would suck for them for sure… but they can’t trade him before that big chunk of change is up. Either way, I guess they’re screwed, and I’m sure the Flyers thought that out in advance… try and make it as hard on Preds to match as possible.

    That’s why Shea Weber is gonna end up being a Pred for life (at least the bulk of the contract).

    Poile said he offered Ryan Suter a contract that compared very well with what Suter got with the Wild & has previously stated that he would match an offer sheet for Weber. I don’t see how he can now tell his fanbase that they are letting him walk.

  10. chucker says:

    Paul Holmgrem just gets shit done. Say what you will, he is the best GM at gettting what he wants. Especially from Nashville. lol

  11. chucker says:

    http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6dde087970b014e8b867872970d-800wi

    Holmgren emerges from the shadows “Did somebody say Shea Weber?”

  12. chucker says:

    Racki: I think Nashville matches. They can’t afford to lose both Weber and Suter. They might as well hand over the team to the NHL at that point, if you ask me. That’s a lot of up front cash though. Maybe they’ll try and wheel and deal him next year if they match.

    That’s what Poile has always said. Having said that, I wonder how close Detroit was to getting him. You have to think they were in the mix with the summer they have had.

  13. Metal&Oil says:

    Since the two teams were working on a deal prior to the offer sheet it would not surprise me if, under the scenario that the Preds do not match that the Preds then trade back some or all of the 1st round picks to the Flyers for actually roster players. This would make sense as the Flyers would sure have a lot Cap work to do.

    This is what happened when the Flyers successfully offer sheeted Cris Gratton from the TB Lightning in 1997.

    From NHL.com:

    -“In 1997, the Philadelphia Flyers signed Tampa Bay Lightning center Chris Gratton to a five-year, $16.5 million contract that the Lightning refused to match, As a result, Tampa Bay was awarded the Flyers’ first-round picks in 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001. Those picks subsequently were dealt back to the Flyers in exchange for forward Mikael Renberg and defenseman Karl Dykhuis.”-

    I am sure the Preds would rather have a combination of picks and actual roster players back then 4 probable late 1st round picks & the Flyers would probably prefer to dump some salary.

  14. chucker says:

    Given the terms of him making 68 mill or something in the first six years, no way can Nashville afford to match. This is a team known for being Ina tight budget that drafts it’s way out if contracts. 26 mill this season alone no matter what. They take the picks. Ellis and Blum are now moving up the depth chart super fast.

  15. dawgtoy says:

    chucker:
    Paul Holmgrem just gets shit done.Say what you will, he is the best GM at gettting what he wants.Especially from Nashville. lol

    Fully and completely agree 100%, that offer sheet is brilliant. They’ve placed Nashville in a catch 22, damned either way.

  16. dawgtoy says:

    chucker:
    Given the terms of him making 68 mill or something in the first six years, no way can Nashville afford to match. This is a team known for being Ina tight budget that drafts it’s way out if contracts. 26 mill this season alone no matter what.They take the picks. Ellis and Blum are now moving up the depth chart super fast.

    Yes, this exactly +1

  17. oilinblood says:

    I would say that the team sticks to its budget. cap basement. they match weber (they are 18 mill under basement). trade a few players who are marketable to get younger talent.

    next summer come to agreement with a team for trade prior to july 1st. that team takes on the bonus… and pays it (this can be done even though the trade is not official yet – see heatley fiasco).

    Nashville was prepared to pay this to both suter and weber, they also were prepared for a big raise for radulov and let him weasle out of his last year.

    Poile definitely makes philly sit for 6 days. the cap hit is on them so they cant make moves, their picks are in limbo. doesnt hurt poile one bit to sit on this.

    nash doesnt have to respect any nmc or ntc. after 1 year i bet half the league is willing to pay that 2013 bonus and lots of assets for the leagues best dman.

    they might even get a shot at #1 overall .

    —- two points of interest i would like to highlight.
    as i have said before the negotiation and demands tactics of the nhl. The nhl technically was not supposed to show their cards first. they did because the PA has stalled since new years to show theirs. So the NHL and bettman exaggerated what they want heavily.

    what i think they want and i actually pointed this out last summer is

    50-52% revenues to players.
    contract term cap of 7 years
    value of cap hit to salary earned.
    no arbitration.

    those i predicted would be the main motions of the league. because they had to go first they greatly exaggerated. dont want UFA age changed? get rid of arbitration and we are happy. The UFA age actually works well or both sides. most high end players get signed before market. dont want 5 year entrys? then lets cap other contracts at 7 years. dont want 47% of the pie? how about 52 but give us salary earned = cap hit for the year.

    NOW IN REGARDS TO WEBER.
    we dont play if the pie isnt re-cut. ROLLBACK.
    Nash is on the hook for this 2012 bonus but the 2013 could be far less, also the numbers in the years following this summer.
    The weber contract is actually market value, its the structure that is not kind. BUT being front loaded every year you invest makes him and his contract that much more attractive.

    ALSO, lots of people have stated this but i willll re-state.
    fehrs big trophy in MLB negotiations was his revenue sharing concept. He has stated that he will push hard for it in the nhl. The nhl, i suspect, will ACT not receptive but they likely endorse it quietly.

    The NHL will “cater to the union” and frown as they accept Fehrs revenue sharing idea. the league will count that as one of their good will concessions. “they really bent us over on that one” “boy fehr you are a tough sob.”

    In the end philly will be giving money to the preds….which will pay for weber

    lol. this shits so bank.

    my kid got cheetos all over my kitchen laptop. sorry if more errors than normal. my fingers are also seemingly getting fatter. i am getting old man hands.

    ——
    as for other off topic stuff to do with cba.
    Honestly bettman put his job on the line to get nhl’ers in the olys but he has seen how little the league gets out of the experience and how much they need to sacrifice. I think both the union and league see it exactly the same. Its something with very little pay off… but something that does carry merit in value for the game itslef. i dont think this is a bargaining chip for either side. this may be the only honest discussion in the cba.

  18. Metal&Oil says:

    Preds match the offer sheet! Good for them, I think that Nashville is a good hockey market that has the potential to grow even further. By saying that they will not be pushed around by other teams with deeper pockets they showed their fans that they are committed to a healthy team in Nashville!

  19. chucker says:

    Metal&Oil:
    Preds match the offer sheet! Good for them, I think that Nashville is a good hockey market that has the potential to grow even further. By saying that they will not be pushed around by other teams with deeper pockets they showed their fans that they are committed to a healthy team in Nashville!

    Yeah but the word around the league is this kind of contract is literally more than they make at the gate in the first three years just to pay him. I agree though, great for Preds fans. I would like to see offer sheets removed from the CBA to tell you the truth. They always end up screwing over at least one team. I just think it is classless and mean spirited.

    Rozsival and Campoli are smiling now. They will get contracts in the next week now.

  20. Metal&Oil says:

    Something tells me that the Preds will find a singular owner with big pockets at some point in time. The market defiantly has potential.

    Also: I am a Titans (NFL) fan and read the Nashville papers quiet often. I remember reading an article about how the Preds, just recently signed a favorable lease agreement @ bridgestone arena.

  21. Racki says:

    Really I think the Preds had to match. That team would be in shambles losing both Weber and Suter. Yah, lots of cash for them up front, but they need guys like Weber to keep them bringing in playoff cash.

  22. oilinblood says:

    Metal&Oil:
    Preds match the offer sheet! Good for them, I think that Nashville is a good hockey market that has the potential to grow even further. By saying that they will not be pushed around by other teams with deeper pockets they showed their fans that they are committed to a healthy team in Nashville!

    well put. no surprises here. I assumed Nash would wait the full 7 days but i suspect with Nash off the market yesterday there is no point in keeping phillys assets tied up in league controlled limbo.

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