Pre Draft Trade Thoughts…

By , June 14, 2012 10:19 am

Is the #1 pick available? Should it be?

Is the #1 pick available? Should it be?


The rumor mill has been busy lately, as it always is at this time, with suggestions that the Oilers will be moving the #1 overall pick. So I thought it would be great to take a look at every team in the NHL and consider their assets… NHLers, and prospects … and consider which players we should be asking about. I mostly focused on the defense, and a bit on goaltenders and centermen, as I think those are our biggest needs. Some of these teams wouldn’t be able to offer much for our #1 pick and some teams would need more than our #1 pick for their assets, so I’ve also considered a list of tradeable players for the Oilers. This time of the year, it’s always fun to talk about trades.. but often they’re pretty unrealistic. I don’t mention any specific deals here though (save for a couple). Please feel free to make some suggestions in the comment section for guys we should be after, or trades we could make.

Edmonton Oilers

Assets to make available: 1st overall pick, Corey Potter, Theo Peckham, Cam Barker, Linus Omark (not sure we can now though), Sam Gagner, Ryan Whitney (assuming we acquire D), Alex Plante, Colten Teubert, Ales Hemsky, Devan Dubnyk/Nikolai Khabibulin, Eric Belanger, Ben Eager, Curtis Hamilton, Martin Gernat, Nick Schultz
The no way we trade them list: Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Ladislav Smid, Jeff Petry, Teemu Hartikainen, Anton Lander, Magnus Paajarvi
Comments: Really I’m not so sure the last 3 players on my no trade list are untradeable, per se, but it would take a fair bit to pry them away. Also, I like several players on the available list, but for the right trade to make us a better team, any of these guys should be available.

Anaheim Ducks

1st round picks: 6th
Players to ask about: Luca Sbisa (D), Emerson Etem (RW), Devante Smith-Pelly (LW)
Notes: Not our best trading partner. For immediate help, I’d say Sbisa is the man. I don’t think I’d drop from 1st to 6th for Luca Sbisa, however.

Boston Bruins

1st round picks: 24th
Players to ask about: Dougie Hamilton (D), Johnny Boychuk (D)
Notes: I don’t think Dougie Hamilton is available, but he is one of the best D prospect picks out there.

Buffalo Sabres

1st round picks: 12th, 21st
Players to ask about: Tyler Myers (D), Mark Pysyk (D)
Notes: I don’t see the Sabres parting with Myers, and Pysyk plus the 12th pick isn’t enough.

Calgary Flames

1st round picks: 14th
Players to ask about: Sven Bartschi
Notes: It’s the Flames… we do NOT deal with them. Especially the #1 overall pick. So forget this…

Carolina Hurricanes

1st round picks: 8th
Players to ask about: Tuomo Ruutu (LW/RW), Ryan Murphy (D)
Notes: I don’t really see a trade happening here.

Chicago Blackhawks

1st round picks: 18
Players to ask about: Patrick Kane, ???
Notes: They look a little thin on the prospects. And I don’t see any of their NHL guys really that available, save maybe Patrick Kane. I’d take a pass on trading with the Hawks barring a miracle like Brent Seabrook being shopped.

Colorado Avalanche

1st round picks: none
Players to ask about: Stefan Elliott (D), Duncan Siemens (D), Tyson Barrie (D), Calvin Pickard (G), Gabriel Landeskog (RW)
Notes: The Avs have some good talent. I doubt they are a trading partner though, given that they are the same division. Landeskog won’t get moved, but it’s never a bad idea to ask. How awesome would it be to have him? They have a couple good D prospects as well in Siemens and Elliott. They have no 1st round pick, so they could easily want to deal with us, however the fact we are in the same Div makes it unlikely.

Columbus Blue Jackets

1st round picks: 2nd
Players to ask about: Nikita Nikitin (D)
Notes: Not much to work with here. I think the Blue Jackets have made it known that they aren’t interested in moving up though. Nikitin would be nice, but the Jackets likely won’t move him.. especially just to climb one spot. We would need to sweeten the deal.

Dallas Stars

1st round picks: 13th
Players to ask about: Jamie Oleksiak (D), Philip Larsen (D)
Notes: The Stars have a couple good prospects on D. It’s hard not to get overly enamored with Oleksiak’s size (especially with his agility). That said, I don’t see a deal here unless it is a multi-player deal.

Detroit Red Wings

1st round picks: none
Players to ask about: Brendan Smith (D), Darren Helm (LW)
Notes: I think Detroit does a fine job of drafting, like the next guy, but they don’t really have an exciting bank of D prospects. They’ll likely turn poop into gold through their awesome development strategy, however.

Florida Panthers

1st round picks: 23rd
Players to ask about: Jacob Markstrom (G), Jonathan Huberdeau (C), Alex Petrovic (D), Erik Gudbranson (D), Dmitri Kulikov (D)
Notes: Lots to foam at the mouth over. They have a top goaltending prospect, a top center propsect, and a few above average D prospects. I would definitely consider them as potential partners. We’d likely need to give our 1st and a good roster player or two to pull out Huberdeau and a D prospect.

Los Angeles Kings

1st round picks: 30th
Players to ask about: Slava Voynov (D), Alec Martinez (D), Derek Forbort (D), Jonathan Bernier (G)… er… Drew Doughty? Wishful thinking.
Notes: The Kings have a great stock of D prospects, plus you have to figure that Bernier is being wasted on a team that already has Jonathan Quick. Luckily we’ve made peace with Dean Lombardi for what was initially thought as screwing him over (twice). He had the last laugh, which might make him more willing to talk.

Minnesota Wild

1st round picks: 7th
Players to ask about: Jonas Brodin (D), Matt Hackett (G)
Notes: I don’t know a damn thing about Brodin. Hockey’s Future plays him up a bit. Doesn’t seem like there is much to work with here though, and really, same Div… no thanks.

Montreal Canadiens

1st round picks: 3rd
Players to ask about: P.K. Subban (D), Alexei Emelin (D), Lars Eller (D)
Notes: There’s been rumors about Subban or Eller and the 3rd overall being offered to us for the #1 pick. My initial thought was “no fucking way”, but I’ve warmed up to the idea of Subban. I’m not a fan of his Hollywood show, however.

Nashville Predators

1st round picks: none
Players to ask about: Jonathan Blum (D), Ryan Ellis (D), Shea Weber (D), Roman Josi (D)
Notes: Lots to work with here. Our primary target in all of this should be Shea Weber. Throw the 1st, and players Nashville’s way. Weber makes this team leagues better. Outside of that, the Preds still have 3 really good D prospects to consider. They have no 1st round pick this year, so you have to figure that acquiring one would be on thier minds. Plus, let’s face it… the Preds could stand to add some forward talent/excitement.

New Jersey Devils

1st round picks: 29th
Players to ask about: Jon Merril (D), Adam Larsson (D) (very long shot.. but you have to ask)
Notes: I’d be floored if Larsson was available, but you have to ask. I would definitely trade #1 overall for Adam Larsson and the 29th pick. Why not? Would the Devils do that, however? Probably not.

New York Islanders

1st round picks: 4th
Players to ask about: Travis Hamonic (D), Ryan Strome (C)
Notes: The Islanders have always been known for trading away youth… so you have to give them a call. Travis Hamonic was once high on my list. Plus Ryan Strome is a hell of a center prospect. There is potential for us to get both, swap picks, and ship off some players like Gagner and a D to get it done.

New York Rangers

1st round picks: 28th
Players to ask about: Michael Del Zotto (D), Marc Staal (D), Dylan McIlrath (D)
Notes: These guys have a couple NHL D-men, although I’m not so sure they’re available. Dylan McIlrath was a hot topic here in his draft year. I’m not so sure there’s a trade to be had here, but worth a call.

Ottawa Senators

1st round picks: 15th
Players to ask about: Jared Cowen (D), Robin Lehner (G)
Notes: I don’t think there is a lot to offer on Ottawa’s part to make us trade the #1 pick, but they have a couple good assets that we can swap for.

Phoenix Coyotes

1st round picks: 27th
Players to ask about: Oliver Ekman-Larsson (D), Brandon Gormley (D), David Rundblad (D), Keith Yandle (D)
Notes: Good D prospects here. OEL and their first for our 1st? Is that fair? Do we need to pad our side? I’m not seeing them move Yandle, but including him anyways.

Philadelphia Flyers

1st round picks: 20th
Players to ask about: Sergei Bobrovsky (G), Erik Gustafsson (D), Brandon Manning (D)
Notes: Bobrovsky could possibly be had for just a warm body from our team. I’m not too sure they have the best D prospects, however.

Pittsburgh Penguins

1st round picks: 22nd
Players to ask about: Simon Despres (D), Joe Morrow (D), Jordan Staal (C)
Notes: They have a few good players to work with, and could be interested in several of our available assets. Prying Staal away would be hard to do, but you’d have to figure he’d thrive here with a higher responsibility.

San Jose Sharks

1st round picks: 17th
Players to ask about: Brent Burns (D), Marc-Edouard Vlasic (D)
Notes: Not much to work with. Burns is fresh on the team. I like him, but I doubt they move him.

St. Louis Blues

1st round picks: 25th
Players to ask about: Alex Pietrangelo (D), Jake Allen (G)
Notes: OK, it is no secret that I’ve been all Pierre McGuire over Pietrangelo since his junior days. I would throw the kitchen sink their way in an offer. Our first plus for Pietrangelo alone.

Tampa Bay Lightning

1st round picks: 10th, 19th
Players to ask about: Victor Hedman (D) (Beyond wishful thinking, but again, have to ask),
Notes: Not a lot to work with here, so I included their big D prospect… Victor Hedman. Yes, please. However, I can’t see why the Lightning would do it.

Toronto Maple Leafs

1st round picks: 5th
Players to ask about: Luke Schenn (D), Jake Gardiner (D), Carl Gunnarsson (D)
Notes: Lots of rumors lately about us dealing with the Leafs, but this is probably a lot of hot air being blown from the Toronto media. Schenn could pan out to be a Jason Smith 2.0 for us. The other two prosepcts on this list likely aren’t available, but you have to ask. I would do a pick swap for Gardiner or Gunnarsson, but it would take a bit more on Toronto’s side to convince me to do it for Schenn, given his lower value.

Vancouver Canucks

1st round picks: 26th
Players to ask about: I’m not seeing anything there worth picking up that they’d trade. And really, I don’t see us dealing with them anyways.
Notes: See above.

Washington Capitals

1st round picks: 11th, 16th
Players to ask about: Dmitri Orlov (D), Braden Holtby (G), Karl Alzner (D), John Carlson (D), Mike Green (D), Michal Neuvirth (G)
Notes: Lots to work with here. We can get an NHL ready goaltender (perhaps) and an NHL ready D. I like their D a lot. Yes, Green is probably overrated given his defensive issues, but I’d still consider him or any of the other guys. It isn’t very likely that they will part with Holtby or Carlson, but you never know.

Winnipeg Jets

1st round picks: 9th
Players to ask about: Zach Bogosian (D)
Notes: Bogo is their best offer. It would seem that the Jets are pretty attached to him, so it’s unlikely he moves. But we are talking about bringing in a potential superstar talent to build the team around too.

Summary…

I think, without a doubt, Los Angeles, Florida, Washington and Nashville have the best choice of players to work with. I don’t know how desperate any of these teams are to deal, but I would definitely make big offers for Shea Weber.. or a bundle of players from Washington, Florida or Los Angeles. Acquiring a big name D will really go a long way on this team. I am a firm believer of building from the backend out. That said, I’d love to draft Nail Yakupov too. We do have a wealth of players that we can make available, and if we’re talking about bringing in new D, we need to ship some D out (I believe we currently have 7 in the NHL, plus guys knocking at the door that may even be waiver eligible by now).

We could also be patient and roll the dice on the Ryan Suter sweepstakes, or go for a guy like Jason Garrison, or one of the other UFAs. I think that Suter is going to be a Red Wing or Ranger though, without much doubt. I don’t see him signing with the Oilers. So I’d prefer to go for a more sure bet via trade.

27 Responses to “Pre Draft Trade Thoughts…”

  1. Steve-O says:

    Yeah, I’d like to think that they’ll pick Yakabot but if Friedman and Dreger are saying otherwise, one has got to think that there is something to this.

    I’d also take Hemsky off the trade list. Besides being awesome, I think trading him now would be a terrible idea as his stock is as low as it has ever been/ever will be. Wait for him to rip it up this year if you must trade him (I still don’t want to though).

    Finally, of all those teams I like the Nashville/LA options best. If we could pull Bernier + Voynov/Martinez/Lokosomethingoranother + 30 for the 1st (++ maybe?) I’d do it. Same with Nashville, except I’d be willing to grab Ellis or Blum too. Weber would be nice, but would he be willing to re-sign? Trading #1 for just a year of Weber would be bad news in my mind.

  2. Racki says:

    HF lists the Post Season Prospect Rankings for 2011-12 for D to be (in order):
    Dougie Hamilton (RHD)
    David Rundblad (RHD)
    Brendan Smith (LHD)
    Brandon Gormley (LHD)
    Oscar Klefbom (LHD)
    Nathan Beaulieu (LHD)
    Ryan Ellis (RHD)
    Justin Schultz (RHD)

    Of course, they seem to graduate some players off that list, but keep others (ex. No Larsson, but Nuge is on it??)

    They have good writeups on them too.

    Entire list (including forwards and goalies) is here.

    note: RHD = Right-handed defenseman, LHD = Left-handed defenseman

  3. fail 4 nail says:

    With tyler myers poor season last year and a cap strapped buffalo team wouldnt it work for both to give up myers and their 1st round for Edmontons 1st overall they get cap space and a hot rw nhl ready prospect to play with roy and vanik and edmonton gets the young d man they need and a lower 1st pick

    Racki: here.

    note: RHD = Right-handed defenseman, LHD = Left-handed defenseman

    Steve-O:
    Yeah, I’d like to think that they’ll pick Yakabot but if Friedman and Dreger are saying otherwise, one has got to think that there is something to this.

    I’d also take Hemsky off the trade list.Besides being awesome, I think trading him now would be a terrible idea as his stock is as low as it has ever been/ever will be. Wait for him to rip it up this year if you must trade him (I still don’t want to though).

    Finally, of all those teams I like the Nashville/LA options best.If we could pull Bernier + Voynov/Martinez/Lokosomethingoranother + 30 for the 1st (++ maybe?) I’d do it.Same with Nashville, except I’d be willing to grab Ellis or Blum too.Weber would be nice, but would he be willing to re-sign?Trading #1 for just a year of Weber would be bad news in my mind.

  4. john says:

    I feel this is one of those times for an exception to the “Pick the best player available” rule. Russian players still scare me to death! Imho there are only 2 franchises in the league who have the respect & ability to draft, patiently develop, sign, then get production from star calibre Russian players; Detroit & Pittsburgh. If Edmonton traded down to 3rd or 4th to get Murray I would not be dissapointed, especially if it got us another 1st pick or decent prospect to boot.

  5. Racki says:

    Fail 4 nail: I’m not sure if we can swap picks AND get Tyler Myers, but yah, I’d be all over it, anyways. Maybe we could do Myers plus the 21st for our 1st.

  6. Racki says:

    John: I really like Nail. I think despite he’s Russian, there are good Russians out there that really just want to play in the NHL. But, yah, it’s hard to believe he’d want to play in this city.. but maybe the lure of playing with Nuge, Eberle and Hall helps.

  7. chucker says:

    So this is all well and good but no way is Columbus not taking Murray at 2. We will keep the pick and take Murray. I don’t like it at all, but that is what I see happening.

  8. Racki says:

    Chucker: I don’t see it happening, myself. I think the Oilers have (thankfully) learned from bad draft choices in the 90s where they drafted too often by need and got burned. Don’t sweat it. I still think we are drafting #1 overall and it will be Nail. I thought it interesting how Puck Daddy burned the Edmonton media for seeming to trying to steer the Oilers away from Yakupov. Jonathan Willis had a good write up on Yak though noting that he was a 2ppg player (well, nearly) before his knee injury last year, and was 1ppg after it. Point being that his stats likely would have been a lot better if he stayed healthy.

  9. dawgtoy says:

    I borrowed this from Oilersnation post #51. http://oilersnation.com/2012/6/15/how-much-offense-did-yakupovs-knee-injury-cost-him#comments

    Here’s 12 various ranking lists:

    A) Craig Button B) Bob Mackenzie (aggregate of ~10 NHL scouts) C) ISS D) MyNHLDraft E) Future Considerations F) NHL Central Scouting G) Redline Report H) Hockey Prospectus I) The Scouting Report J) The Hockey Writers K) The Hockey News L) McKeen’s Hockey

    Yakupov A 1 B 1 C 1 D 1 E 1 F 1 NA skater G 1 H 1 I 1 J 1 K 1 L 1 ……Average: 1.0

    Forsberg A 7 B 4 C 2 D 5 E 5 F 1 Euro Skater G 2 H 4 I 2 J 5 K 2 L 3 …..Ave: 3.5

    Murray A 13 B 3 C 3 D 2 E 3 F 2 NA Skater G 4 H 8 I 4 J 3 K 4 L 4 ….Ave: 4.42

    Galchenyuk A 4 B 6 C 14 D 3 E 2 F 4 NA Skater G 6 H 3 I 3 J 6 K 7 L 2 ….Ave: 5.0

    Grigorenko A 20 B 2 C 4 D 4 E 4 F 3 NA Skater G 8 H 2 I 5 J 4 K 3 L 9 ….Ave: 5.67

    Dumba A 2 B 5 C 6 D 6 E 10 F 11 NA Skater G 3 H 6 I 7 J 2 K 5 L 6 …..Ave: 5.75

    Rielly A 3 B 9 C 7 D 9 E 9 F 5 NA Skater G 7 H 7 I 6 J 8 K 6 L 8 ….Ave: 7.0

    Teravainen A 5 B 10 C 8 D 8 E 8 F 2 Euro Skater G 5 H 5 I 11 J 7 K 12 L 5 ….Ave: 7.17

    Reinhart A 6 B 8 C 10 D 7 E 7 F 10 NA Skater G 9 H 15 I 10 J 9 K 8 L 7 ….Ave: 8.83

    Trouba A 12 B 7 C 5 D 10 E 6 F 9 NA Skater G 11 H 12 I 9 J 13 K 9 L 10 ….Ave: 9.42

    That’s quite the gap between Yakupov and Forsberg, let alone Yakupov and Murray.

  10. Racki says:

    Yah, i had seen Willis’ write up on Yakupov having a great year before the knee injury. Really, I don’t even think his end-of-year stats are bad. But when you think about the fact that he was obviously slowed down by that injury, it’s pretty impressive how good his numbers are. I have wanted Yakupov from the get go and will always want Yakupov and no other pick. Although I will note that I’m not opposed to trading the pick if we get a star d-talent in return. But I think Yakupov is going to be a hell of a player and we’d be crazy to take anyone else.

  11. oilinblood says:

    agreed. you draft nail now or trade the pick for a fully developed top end Dman. If you arent taking the unanimous, no competition, best player in the draft…then you better be getting someone who is solid in the position of your need from start to finish. I haventt been a fan of russians but you do your homeework and take the BEST player.
    I dont think trading the unanimous number 1 choice away to draft Kevin Lowe version 2… is a good deal. IF Murray even gets to that level. its a weak draft. take the best. If Hall is unanimous Nail is Unanimous

  12. G&S says:

    Take Yak and if one of the D we like falls out of the top ten then make a trade.

    Gut feeling:

    Gagner to Caps for 11th overall plus some type of project player/prospect. Taylor Hall then moves to Center.

  13. Racki says:

    Question for you guys… say we draft the Yak. Where do you guys envision him playing?

    He’s a natural right wing. We’ve got Hemsky and Eberle in those spots already. Eberle clearly is first line material (well, if you ask me, he is). Maybe we put together an all veteran line of Smyth (if he re-signs), Horcoff, Hemsky…

    I’d like to see Hall play center. But if he does, then I’m not sure who our top line LW is. Some might say “Nail” to that question. He says he can play both wings, but he also said he could play goal.. so uh.. who knows.

    Depth chart (per the Oilers):

    LW: Hall, Smyth, Jones, Eager, Hartikainen
    C: Nugent-Hopkins, Gagner, Horcoff, Belanger, Lander
    RW: Eberle, Hemsky, (Yakupov?), Petrell, Hordichuk

    Looking at that, I think we’re still really hindered by a couple things:
    1) vets who just can’t compete for shit anymore… or at least need to do better at it
    2) inexperienced core players who can sometimes struggle battling on the road

    Hmm.. I think if Hall moves to center, we’d be pretty weak on the left wing, unless Yakupov can play there (but even if he can, we’re still a little weak, imho). The Oilers list Jones as a LWer… maybe he plays both sides, but I think he’s a natural RWer too. But really, he isn’t a top six guy, either way.

    I think Hartikainen is getting to where he’ll make a jump to the NHL soon though. He still needs work, but he’s a mature player with a good skill set. But I am not sure this is the year for Hall at C yet.. unless we pick up a LW (and even so, it’s still a maybe).

  14. G&S says:

    I would put Yak on the 2nd line RW spot if his play at camp and beyond justifies that. (and it should). Late last year I really liked Hartie with the Nuge and Ebs so maybe we could try that again.

    As for Hall at center. I would ease him into that role. Perhaps starting him on the 1st unit PP.

    Not my opening night top 2 lines but maybe by X-mass I could see our top 2 lines being

    Hartikainen-Nuge-Ebs
    Hemsky-Hall-Yak (if he is comfortable playing the right side).

    I really think we need some muscle on that 1st line and I think Harti can provide it.

  15. Racki says:

    G&S .. I’ll just point out that Hemsky does NOT play left wing. But it’s possible that Yakupov could line up on the left side and Hemsky play his natural right wing. Yakupov did say he’d play anywhere.. but it’s more of a case of CAN he play on the left wing.

    And yes, I think Hartikainen will be a good big body to have on a youth line. I am not sure if he’s there just yet (i.e. may need more time in the A…) but he’s getting close. But I really like him a lot.

  16. G&S says:

    Oh yeah. Got a bit mixed up on the positions there but I really like that look for our top six, especially if Smyth demands anything over $2M a year (sorry but anything over that is absurd and he can take a hike if he thinks otherwise).

  17. Jerod says:

    Edmonton trades its #1 pick plus a player for Adam Larsson and the 29th pick 2012.

    This would be interesting to both sides.

    Kovalchuk would love to have Yakupov and vice versa , Parise may be leaving NJ. It makes some sense.

    Edmonton gets a potential number 1 d-man and still has the 29 th pick and 32pick if they want to trade up in the draft.

  18. Racki says:

    Jerod: Welcome to the Foil, and thanks for the post…

    I don’t know if Jersey would trade away a top 5 pick that easily, but I would definitely do that trade. It was a toss up between Larsson and the Nuge for a while last year, so getting both in the end would be great. To me it’s just a question of whether the Devils would really be interested in moving their best defensive asset to get better up front, or if they’d rather achieve that other ways.

  19. dawgtoy says:

    http://lowetide.ca/blog/2012/06/draft-week-post-9-mock.html

    Woodguy says:
    June 17, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Maybe that’s why Lou kept his pick this year?
    NJD gets #1 + something that’s not 32nd and EDM gets Larsson + 29?

  20. Racki says:

    Well, I will definitely say that I would do it. I would rather have a more established D-man, but I think given Larsson’s high stock value, I’d do that trade.

  21. UnrefinedCrude says:

    Racki:
    Question for you guys… say we draft the Yak. Where do you guys envision him playing?

    He’s a natural right wing. We’ve got Hemsky and Eberle in those spots already…

    Hemmer rarely if ever actually plays in position, and he seems more effective when he freewheels anyway, so I would move him to the offwing, and use him as the veteran linemate for Yak.

  22. Mr.Majestyk says:

    My far out there trade ideas…

    To Buffalo: Patrick Kane

    To Chicago: Ryan Miller

    followed by…

    To Buffalo: Roberto Luongo

    To Vancouver: Christian Ehrhoff.

    It would work on my xbox:)

  23. Steve-O says:

    Well, Bobby Mac has his draft rankings out and looks as though it’s Yakupov, Murray, Forsburg and then Reinhart.

    Plus I read on twitter (and for the life of me I can’t remember where, but I’m pretty sure it was someone legit) that the Oilers have pretty much narrowed it down to the two D men.

    I’d like them to pick Yakupov, but I’m betting Reinhart gets his name called by the Oilers.

    Also, they interviewed Galchenyuk (ranked 5) and he seemed pretty talented, so I kinda hope he falls to 32nd (not that he will, but that other Russian fell quite a bit). Or I hope that Morgan Rielly falls more due to injury concerns. Racki and I saw him in the WHL playoffs and he was fast and good in the offensive zone.

  24. Racki says:

    Galchenyuk is honestly my “sleeper” pick. I think from what I’ve seen of him the kid is incredibly talented. I can only imagine what the draft rankings would be if he played this year (more than a handful of games, anyway). He has an incredibly hard/accurate wrister, and is really strong on the puck. I’d actually think that with him being a centre, he probably fits better into what we need. But again, I’m not a “draft by need” kind of guy. We draft the best guy available, and with him missing a whole year, nearly, it’s too hard to tell if he is as good as the 10th ranked guy, let alone #1.

    Anyways, if the Oilers draft #1 overall and don’t take Yakupov, I’ll be pretty choked. If they draft Reinhart #1, I’ll be severely choked. If they draft Murray #1… well, I’ll be OK with that, but still kind of choked. They really need to take the best player available, or move the pick somewhere and draft later.

  25. oilinblood says:

    I like Griff, maybe its because i saw about twice as much of him as i did murray. I think if you an get Carolinas pick at 8th than there is a big chance to score him. He is 2-3 years off still, as is murray in my opinion, butid rather have himm than murray long term.
    Hurricanes are said to be keen on Gagner and might give up on Nash talks and focus on a cheap alternaitve like Hemsky if we take on a oft-injured guy like Ruutu. along with the 8th overall i like RHD McBain.
    bored brain storming brought me to something like

    Gags(former 6th overall), Hemsky, 31st for 8th, McBain, Ruutu.

    —to clarify , we draft yaks at #1 no matter what, but i feel Griff is a better dman if we draft one in the 1st with another pick. Getting 8th should get us Griff…and its an achievable pick.

  26. Racki says:

    That seems like a pretty good deal for us. Not sure the Canes do it, but I’d love it. Always loved Tuomo Ruutu. We do lose some good offense in that deal though (when it’s working for them), so I’d think that the Canes would do that deal.

  27. oilinblood says:

    i think it makes sense; Tuomo has had as many heath issues as Hemsky and is about the same kind of contractual hook with Hemsky having a much bigger proven upside, Tuomo plays a game we are lacking out of our top 6 and best thing is he can play left wing. McBain is a RHD who is pretty solid IMO, never going to be a 1-2 guy but second pair RHD is something we need to let Petry see what his ceiling can be. The 8th overall lets us likely grab Griffin.
    Canes give up on the cap hit and enigma that is Nash and shift Tuomo for Hemsky to play with Staal. Hemsky has always been better in the east. Gags is a good fit on a team with Staal and Sutter down the middle. Unlike in edmonton he wont be on a small team anymore. The 32nd overall pick is a good pick to have.

    From an Oilers perspective you open a hole at 2nd C but you actually have less holes than you begin with. Smid and petry and Shultz (nick) with McBain seem solid pairings. N Shultz was very solid in his first month with us. So if you strike out with J Shultz and Suter… you are still good on d-men and can still have a good competitive camp. You also still have assets to package for a 2nd centre.

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