Andrew Cogliano traded to the Ducks for 2013 2nd round pick…

By , July 12, 2011 10:14 am
Andrew Cogliano has been traded to the Anaheim Ducks

Andrew Cogliano has been traded to the Anaheim Ducks

Andrew Cogliano has been traded the the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a 2nd round pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft.

Cogliano dropped down the depth chart quite a bit here. His days were definitely numbered. But did we get full value for him?


Did the Oilers get good value for Cogliano in the trade with the Ducks?

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43 Responses to “Andrew Cogliano traded to the Ducks for 2013 2nd round pick…”

  1. Alan-NottsUK says:

    Well my white jersey is now OOD for 2 reasons. Hopefully Cogs gets a decent shot down in California, quite a few Oilers headed down there this summer.

    Also a 2nd rounder is a better return than I expected.

  2. Racki says:

    Disappointed that all we got was a 2nd rounder. Unfortunately though, Cogs’ value was low. Trading him was the right thing to do though, so I have mixed feelings here. We definitely sold low here. But, he wasn’t a piece of the puzzle anymore… this was obvious.

    I wish him a lot of luck in Anaheim.

  3. Bostonoiler says:

    I’ll miss Cogs, but this was the right move. Lets face it, Andrw no longer fit in with the Oilers we needed to move a smallish forward and we did that today. The Oilerts get a 2nd round pick, and that could turn out well consdering the way the Oilers have been drafting lately. I wish all the best for Cogs, but I think the Oilers got the best offer for him.

    solid move for both, Oilers free up a spot, and get a pick, whie the Ducks get a player that can turn it around.

  4. zackman35 says:

    I was hoping he was going to the eastern conference, I fear we could loath facing him in years to come, especially if he perfects his FO but hopefully not. Wish him the best kinda, hard worker.

  5. Dman09 says:

    I think given the situation they got fair Value. Lets face it with the current depth he didn’t really have a spot anymore. If he went to arbitration he would likely be awarded around the 2 million which I believe the Oilers would have walked away from. So in reality they got a 2 rounder for a guy that they could, and likely would have had to, let go for nothing. I have to give a thumbs up to Tambo on this one.

  6. Racki says:

    I don’t see Cogliano making us rue the day whenever we play him, however I could see him doing well enough there though for several of us to say “told you so!” that there was a player there. I can’t see him playing center for any other team though unless they can handle his laughably bad FO% though. :PI don’t see that improving by much at this point.

    As I’ve always said though, I think he makes an excellent winger.

  7. chucker says:

    I agree with Racki, but we are in a numbers game here. Lander or VV are knocking on the door. One of them will make the team. We will get bigger I hope by this move. He will do well there playing a more offensive type role.

  8. Mr.Majestyk says:

    I wonder what we could have got for him last season or at the draft or trade deadline? Was he no longer in the plans because of what we did on July 1?

    I look at this trade like trading in an old car. Sometimes you don’t get back what you’d expect with the amount of car you’re giving up, but you do it because you don’t have use for more than one car.

    With the way we were decimated with injuries its of note that Cogs played every game for us.

  9. LateNightOilFan says:

    I wish him all the best. He was pushed out from the top and the bottom on the roster this year, and the signing of Belanger pretty much sealed the deal. With him going to arbitration I figured he would only garner a pick in return. Hopefully he gets a good opportunity with the Ducks. Lots of respect for how he handled himself as an Oiler.

    Remember this? http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=430267

  10. zackman35 says:

    Yeah I guess loath is much to strong of word, I think he could turn out to be a decent third line player, I wish him the best and I still won’t really care all that muchabout the trade if he gets 10G 25A per season. Hope he does good.

  11. Racki says:

    Mr.Majestyk:
    I wonder what we could have got for him last season or at the draft or trade deadline?Was he no longer in the plans because of what we did on July 1?

    I look at this trade like trading in an old car.Sometimes you don’t get back what you’d expect with the amount of car you’re giving up, but you do it because you don’t have use for more than one car.

    With the way we were decimated with injuries its of note that Cogs played every game for us.

    I don’t think the value was there last year either. IMHO, we had to sell him when he was “invaluable” to the team and no one wanted to trade him. So during or at the end of one of his first two seasons, basically.

    Anyways, I’ll definitely miss him. Good player, good heart (how about the fact that he played all 82 despite getting his face bashed in a jillion times?), and a decent all around player. Perhaps the Todd Marchant 2.0 comments are warranted. I’d like to see him get a top-six chance in Anaheim. Not sure if he will though.

  12. Grass&sOIL says:

    So I think we now have 3 2nd round picks in next years draft. Our pick, the Kings pick and now the Ducks pick. Really I think this is just the first step that will allow for a bigger deal to be made at some point. We could defiantly move up in next years draft at the very least!!!

    I am kind of neutral on this one as for getting fair value and I wish Cogs all the best!!! Who could ever forget those 3 OT game winners in consecutive games? !!!

    EDIT: I now see that it is a 2013 pick. Still though it is another good bargaining chip.

    I couldn’t resist posting it!!!!

    Remember that Chicago game(his 2nd of 3 consec OT goals)? That was probably the most exciting game that the Oilers have played going back to that date. Fans were going crazy saying that these were the 2 up and coming teams in the western conference after that game(lil did anyone know that a few years later one would hoist the cup while the other finished dead last).

    In the next game against the Blues were he got his 3rd consec OT goal I remember having to check my ginch for miss fires I was so damn excited.

    Can’t see another player scoring 3 OT goals in consecutive games for a very long time. That record is almost as safe as some of Wayne’s records.

  13. LateNightOilFan says:

    The Ducks have gone for 2 Oilers today – JDD/JD just signed with them. Didn’t see it posted here yet.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=371599

  14. Racki says:

    I’m baffled by that one, because they actually signed him a few days ago. I guess it wasn’t actually official until now??

  15. LateNightOilFan says:

    Racki: I’m baffled by that one, because they actually signed him a few days ago. I guess it wasn’t actually official until now??

    Oops, guess I missed that announcement from earlier.

    Maybe the Ducks wanted to be sure he passed a medical first…. :)

  16. Racki says:

    hahaha

    I’m surprised that the Cogliano trade isn’t pending a lip specialist’s second opinion. “OMG, he needs surgery on his lip! How can he be expected to play?!”

  17. LateNightOilFan says:

    Racki: hahahaI’m surprised that the Cogliano trade isn’t pending a lip specialist’s second opinion. “OMG, he needs surgery on his lip! How can he be expected to play?!”

    lol Ducks fans are probably going crazy – OMG we traded with Edmonton! They can’t be trusted!

  18. Bostonoiler says:

    Jeff Marek suggests the Oilers are looking at another deal, movince a center. Defense coming next?

  19. Racki says:

    If a center is moving, I’m almost certain it’s Gagner. There’s been too much “smoke” on both Gagner and Cogliano being moved. If Gagner moves, I think that almost seals that they’ll have RNH up here this season.

    But I’m hoping we see something like Gagner for Bogosian, if we’re dealing Gagner. I think there’s a very good player in there, and I question trading him for anything that doesn’t solidify our defense… and maybe even the goaltending too… but for sure the defense.

    The other option would be to move him to a team in cap-purgatory (or over their internal cap) looking to shed salary and move him for a big name young D that is looking for big $$$$ or already makes big $$$$.

  20. Racki says:

    Humoring that idea:

    Hall Horcoff Eberle
    Smyth RNH Hemsky
    Paajarvi Lander Omark
    Brule Belanger Jones

    Are we in deep kaka?

    What if our d is now:

    Whitney Bogosian/Weber/Green/etc.
    Smid Gilbert
    Peckham Sutton

    Btw, I’m not saying we can get a superb talent like Weber straight up for Gagner, but suggesting that maybe we could put a package together. Doubtful… wishful thinking.. but I’ve been surprised by some of the players that have moved this off-season and in the past that shouldn’t have been available.

  21. oilinblood says:

    holy crap. i hav been watching tsn every time i boot up my comp just to see this go down. a 2nd round pick? ahahaha. take it and run away. good riddance. i expected a 7th.

    now its time to toss brule and his big mouth gf. youd think a hockey player would have the variety available to pick a decently educated woman. i guess youd think wrong.
    punt them both as far from edmonton as possible. siberia???
    i love how she got so excited that they were going to LA and leaving a “hole” like edmonton but yet didnt realize the kings dont want anything to do with the bust any more than pay him to get lost. ooooooo. ouch. handed out like trash.

  22. Racki says:

    If Tambellini had traded away Cogliano for a 7th he should be cut loose.

  23. chucker says:

    Yeah, Cogs for a 7th would be, well, the actions of a rah-tard. He is a good role player that we have four more of. On another team he will be a versatile and good role player. I bet he does really well with the Ducks because he has no pressure on him, therefore, I predict he does really well. Omark made him expendable as well as the logjam at centre.

  24. oilinblood says:

    whats with the ducks taking our spare parts? do they owe us something? incestuous pictures taken of a high ranking duck brass? this is crazy.

  25. Racki says:

    All due respect, I’d say your asset management is skewed here, OIB.

    Do we have room for Cogliano? No…

    Do we have several players competing for a similar roster spot? Yes.

    Those answers are how they are though because we’ve been lucky (or unfortunate?) enough to scoop up a good pool of prospects that can compete for roster spots.

    This all does not speak of the value he or other players would have to another team. I’m guessing that you don’t think Cogliano is a good player at all, which I suppose makes your 7th round pick make sense, but I think the 2nd round pick is far closer to Cogliano’s value than a 7th is.

    Horrible center, imho… but a good winger. He can PK… he can put up respectable numbers with low minutes… has superb speed. I think you have to realize that he was impacted by the numbers game here which forced him to have to reinvent himself as a player. On other teams, he could crack the top six. But even as a checker, I’d say a team is getting a good player. Just my 2 cents.. I see you’re not at all on the same page on this one, but people don’t agree about everything.

  26. Racki says:

    Now FOSTER on the other hand… I think I’d almost be inclined to say that we fleeced them there, however really Foster should be a better player than he really is, and Sutton is likely on the decline (although I am happy to get him though and hope he can have a better year than last year).

  27. hemmerlady says:

    HL not so happy. Love Cogs’ attitude, grit & speed. I’m not saying it wasn’t a decent business move (but not sure it was either – 2nd round…I dunno), but I liked Cogs and think that we will see great things from him…may be another one that got away. Should be a good opportunity for him with the Ducks though. Beats playing for a last place team. Zing! :’(

    The “Sourceress” is starting to bother me btw, not sure why. I don’t like not knowing where the info comes from, even if it ends up being on the mark. I think the Oil mgmt has a leak…pun not intended.

  28. Racki says:

    hemmerlady:
    HL not so happy. Love Cogs’ attitude, grit & speed. I’m not saying it wasn’t a decent business move (but not sure it was either – 2nd round…I dunno), but I liked Cogs and think that we will see great things from him…may be another one that got away. Should be a good opportunity for him with the Ducks though. Beats playing for a last place team. Zing! :’(

    The “Sourceress” is starting to bother me btw, not sure why. I don’t like not knowing where the info comes from, even if it ends up being on the mark. I think the Oil mgmt has a leak…pun not intended.

    I still think it’s someone in the family, like Katz’s son or something. lol Especially think it’s someone young, cause who is stupid enough to use a pic of a model (or whatever she is? pron-star?) as their avatar and play it off that they’re them.

    Anyways, regardless of who they are, I like hearing the info, myself, but I hate if the players catch wind though… and they will.

  29. hemmerlady says:

    Racki: I still think it’s someone in the family, like Katz’s son or something. lol Especially think it’s someone young, cause who is stupid enough to use a pic of a model (or whatever she is? pron-star?) as their avatar and play it off that they’re them.

    Anyways, regardless of who they are, I like hearing the info, myself, but I hate if the players catch wind though… and they will.

    Yeah, I don’t know if it could be one of Katz, K-Lowe or Tambi’s kids. In that Oil Change episode, the kids were threatened beyond measure to stay the @!$ off Facebook when they decided to take Hall, before the draft. Definitely they would have figured it out by now if it was one of their kids, that is, if they even care about Twitter rumours… I think you’re right though, could be a (distant, not-so-popular?) family member, or a friend. (p.s. will try to confirm about Big Mac, not that anyone is surprised he’s leaving).

    I shall also go on the record to say I am opposed to losing Gags. Yeah, yeah, I know we’re over-saturated with wingers. Don’t wanna lose good guys with potential though. (It is difficult for HL to let go of Oiler players she does not consider useless, e.g. not Khabi. Or Struddy, bless his heart)

  30. Steve-O says:

    Racki: Humoring that idea:

    Hall Horcoff Eberle
    Smyth RNH Hemsky
    Paajarvi Lander Omark
    Brule Belanger Jones

    Are we in deep kaka?

    Yes. I don’t know why they would insist on putting out two rookies at center because it doesn’t work. If Gagner goes, a center should be coming back, or they want another high pick

  31. Racki says:

    HL: I don’t want to lose Gagner either… unless he brings in a young, big name defenseman.

  32. Alan-NottsUK says:

    If we had to get rid of a roster player now via trade I think Omark is the odd one out, for a few reasons.

    1. He is 3rd on the RW depth chart, which gives him 3rd line minutes more suited to a shutdown/energy type player. He destroyed the +/- of everyone he played with, i think both MPS and Gagner’s dropped by around 14 after Omark was put on their line.

    2. Gagner can also play RW, so if there is an injury with our new found center depth we could call up Lander slot him into a center role and put Gagner on the wing, where he had a solid rookie season. And even though Omark can play LW, he would be behind Hall, MPS and Smyth depth wise, and could not replace their style of play anyway.

    3. He is on a cheap RFA contract, so that would hold more value with teams closer to the cap looking for top 6 additions.

    However, the risk of trading Omark is Hemsky not re-signing. In which case our RW depth is destroyed, from 4 players that can play top 6 RW to 2 (including Gagner), which would not be good.

  33. Racki says:

    Omark is probably the grittiest of our small players though… I also question the +/- stat, as Magnus Paajarvi’s sample set outside of Omark is pretty small.. and Gagner’s has always been poor.

    However if it came between choosing between losing Gagner or losing Omark, I’d pick Omark. My hopes for Gagner have slowly dropped, but I still think we’ve got a good player in there. So on that, I agree.

  34. Alan-NottsUK says:

    With regard to Gagner’s +/- this season.

    with Horcoff in the team +2
    without Horcoff in the team -17

    Gagner took a hit when given Horcoff’s match ups, which shouldn’t be suprising really. But it only really went to shit when the MPS Gagner Omark, line was put together. If i recall Gagner was around -6, and MPS -2 before that happened.

    On just one season it could be pure coincidence that Paajarvi took a huge hit on his +/- when Omark was on his line, or it could be Omark’s poor defence work, which he did say he was going to work on over the summer, so hopefully it will have improved.

  35. Racki says:

    I think the problem too is that collectively as a whole there isn’t really anyone that stands out as a defensive specialist. Paajarvi is probably the closest thing to it, but none of those guys are really too well known for winning battles in their own zone. Perhaps just a bad line.

    I’m OK with a guy having a bias towards the offensive though if his linemates can help make up for it.

    But really, there could be a myriad of reasons for a groups +/- going to the dumps… defensemen out of the line up.. playing with a goaltender that couldn’t stop a beach ball… bad linemates, etc.. The +/- stat is a very debatable stat.

  36. Racki says:

    Btw, sorry for my laziness here, but I think it’s Behind the Net that has the On/Off stats (GA ON, for example) and I think that one is helpful and might prove/disprove your argument. I think it’s still a bit early to really tell though cause you’re talking about a line composed of two rookies book-ends and a center that’s still developing.

    Anyways, these stats basically tell how well a player did when another player was on the ice as far as goals for, goals against, and other things.

  37. chucker says:

    Lander is a guy who prides himself as a defense first guy according to his interviews. Maybe one is on the way? Belanger too. Same with Horc.

  38. Racki says:

    You can’t help but think that Paajarvi Lander and Omark would make good linemates, since they’re all Swedes and should be synchronized like the Sisters.

    Hall Horcoff Eberle
    Smyth Gagner Hemsky
    Paajarvi Lander Omark
    Brule Belanger Jones

    Extras rotated in when sandpaper needed: Hordi, Eager

    That doesn’t include RNH.

  39. Alan-NottsUK says:

    Racki:
    Btw, sorry for my laziness here, but I think it’s Behind the Net that has the On/Off stats (GA ON, for example) and I think that one is helpful and might prove/disprove your argument. I think it’s still a bit early to really tell though cause you’re talking about a line composed of two rookies book-ends and a center that’s still developing.

    Anyways, these stats basically tell how well a player did when another player was on the ice as far as goals for, goals against, and other things.

    It’s not just stats I’m thinking about, they’re just the easiest thing to use to show a point. From watching games on TV (granted it was usually 3-5am) and live in person, there was something that just didn’t sit right with me about Omark.

    At the back end of the season he produced really well, especially against the Canucks, however I have this doubt about whether he could have done it against a team that was focused. The Canucks were coasting and it looked like they didn’t care, then comes the Calgary game, they were fighting for a play off spot, and Omark was nowhere to be seen. I think too many people are remembering only his play at the back end of the season in ‘meaningless’ games.

  40. Racki says:

    I think Omark for his size though is a lot stronger on the puck than Gagner though. His compete in the offensive zone is pretty high too. But yes, for sure his defensive zone play needs work still. But I am not really looking to see either of them go. Like I said though, if forced, I would move Omark too over Gagner. But I don’t think either really should go.

  41. Racki says:

    So, the Sourceress (@TreenasOil) had a couple new tweets… one saying the Jets are interested in Gilbert. The other saying that the Sharks have had talks with the Oilers about Gagner as well as Omark. Better not deal those guys within the conference.

  42. misfit says:

    oilinblood: whats with the ducks taking our spare parts? do they owe us something? incestuous pictures taken of a high ranking duck brass? this is crazy.

    Well, they did fleece us in two straight deals where they ended up with our #1 defenseman.

    That said, I wouldn’t say they did us any favours on this deal (or the Foster/Sutton trade). Sure, a 2nd is all we could probably ask for Cogliano, but we also could’ve used him this year. He would be fighting for the 4th line C role with Brule and some rookies, but he’d help out in one important area where the alternatives wouldn’t…the PK. As for Sutton/Foster, it doesn’t hurt us, but let’s not make it sound like we got anything special for Foster. We got a different 3rd pairing defenseman who costs more. That’s it.

  43. Racki says:

    misfit: agreed… really we’re swapping spare parts here. It just so happens that we have a greater need for a lumbering, big, physical d-man than we do a big d-man that really had no upside at all here last year. One man’s junk is another man’s treasure here, perhaps. Or they could both be duds.

    I think I’m more content with the 2nd round return on Cogs than I was before. But I am and always was happy that we moved him. I was a big supporter of the guy, but they were trying to find a spot for him here by forcing him into a role he wasn’t really built to excel at. We have better ways to fill that role, really. I think he’s a quality winger but a poor centreman. Simple as that.. and we’ve got wingers up the ying yang, really.

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