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		<title>By: oilinblood</title>
		<link>http://puttingonthefoil.com/2010/09/first-day-of-waivers-for-purpose-of-reassignment/#comment-19196</link>
		<dc:creator>oilinblood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I subscribe to the perception that no return would be the best return on Souray. From a forward standpoint I think we have a few guys who are on the bubble that i feel deserve a look. Ondrus has impressed me and i admit i thought this guy was a tard. Personally i think Cogs inefficiency, or more accurately put complete comedic incompetence, in the circle puts him to a wing position on the fourth line. Really in that position i would rather have Ondrus. He doesnt show enough finish to me to be a top 6 NOR a top 9 on a good team, as i would sooner...much MUCH sooner afford a look see to Omark in that spot  because he has the hands and craftyness. Cogs has had 3 years so far... Omark is green and looks better. Nough said.

Frankly Cogs looks terrible. He hurts the oilers more than helps. 

I think if i am Tambi i might wait until after the first 5 games of the year...then pull the trigger on a deal for Souray and Cogs...either combined or seperate. Then you bring up a player that got temporarily cut (like Omark who doesnt need to clear waivers) bring someone up. Waive Souray if you cant donate him for free to a team. Or loan him out to a euro team. I dont want bodies back for either asset... DPs would be nice for the cupboards.

I keep thinking of Filatov from Columbus and if perhaps we could do a :
Souray
Cogs
4th RD

for Filatov and Commodore.

Again it would be a move made 5 games in to see if our centres are working...if they arent Pahlsson is a target.

Its interesting that with Murray in Ottawa liking Cogliano, that we never hear of that situation being resurrected.
i would be very interested if Rundblad was at all negotiable from Murray. Hes a bigger Rafalski iMO.  With their situation on Defense and injuries you just never know. 

5 games in to revisit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I subscribe to the perception that no return would be the best return on Souray. From a forward standpoint I think we have a few guys who are on the bubble that i feel deserve a look. Ondrus has impressed me and i admit i thought this guy was a tard. Personally i think Cogs inefficiency, or more accurately put complete comedic incompetence, in the circle puts him to a wing position on the fourth line. Really in that position i would rather have Ondrus. He doesnt show enough finish to me to be a top 6 NOR a top 9 on a good team, as i would sooner&#8230;much MUCH sooner afford a look see to Omark in that spot  because he has the hands and craftyness. Cogs has had 3 years so far&#8230; Omark is green and looks better. Nough said.</p>
<p>Frankly Cogs looks terrible. He hurts the oilers more than helps. </p>
<p>I think if i am Tambi i might wait until after the first 5 games of the year&#8230;then pull the trigger on a deal for Souray and Cogs&#8230;either combined or seperate. Then you bring up a player that got temporarily cut (like Omark who doesnt need to clear waivers) bring someone up. Waive Souray if you cant donate him for free to a team. Or loan him out to a euro team. I dont want bodies back for either asset&#8230; DPs would be nice for the cupboards.</p>
<p>I keep thinking of Filatov from Columbus and if perhaps we could do a :<br />
Souray<br />
Cogs<br />
4th RD</p>
<p>for Filatov and Commodore.</p>
<p>Again it would be a move made 5 games in to see if our centres are working&#8230;if they arent Pahlsson is a target.</p>
<p>Its interesting that with Murray in Ottawa liking Cogliano, that we never hear of that situation being resurrected.<br />
i would be very interested if Rundblad was at all negotiable from Murray. Hes a bigger Rafalski iMO.  With their situation on Defense and injuries you just never know. </p>
<p>5 games in to revisit.</p>
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		<title>By: chucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>chucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Racki, I saw something the other day that the Isles signed Neino to an entry level deal.  

On Redden, NO, I dont&#039; want him even for that price and nobody should.  Have you seen this guy play the last few years?  He plays like a guy who makes 1.5.  Brutal.

On Souray; I think it&#039;s looking like there may be some possibilities.  If waiving him is the way to go, I&#039;m fine with it as I&#039;m very sure Tambi has called every GM about five times about him.  Having said that, it would be a minor miracle if he could parlay him into something. &quot;I envoke the right of parlay!&quot; 

Hmmmmm.....anyways, Streit is basically the best player on the Isles so Souray would fit well there.  I guess the willingness to trade for a guy who cleared waivers may be the issue, especially at his salary.  Wang has been bleeding money there for years, but maybe it works out.  I don&#039;t really know.

It did seem very clear what our options were a while ago and I don&#039;t think that&#039;s changed, so we&#039;re still hoping for an injury to a high end blue liner that Souray could fill in for, waivers, or re-assignment.

Perhaps it would be prudent to wait for the inevitable injuries that you know are going to happen.  I really don&#039;t know what to think decissively anymore.  :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Racki, I saw something the other day that the Isles signed Neino to an entry level deal.  </p>
<p>On Redden, NO, I dont&#8217; want him even for that price and nobody should.  Have you seen this guy play the last few years?  He plays like a guy who makes 1.5.  Brutal.</p>
<p>On Souray; I think it&#8217;s looking like there may be some possibilities.  If waiving him is the way to go, I&#8217;m fine with it as I&#8217;m very sure Tambi has called every GM about five times about him.  Having said that, it would be a minor miracle if he could parlay him into something. &#8220;I envoke the right of parlay!&#8221; </p>
<p>Hmmmmm&#8230;..anyways, Streit is basically the best player on the Isles so Souray would fit well there.  I guess the willingness to trade for a guy who cleared waivers may be the issue, especially at his salary.  Wang has been bleeding money there for years, but maybe it works out.  I don&#8217;t really know.</p>
<p>It did seem very clear what our options were a while ago and I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s changed, so we&#8217;re still hoping for an injury to a high end blue liner that Souray could fill in for, waivers, or re-assignment.</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be prudent to wait for the inevitable injuries that you know are going to happen.  I really don&#8217;t know what to think decissively anymore.  <img src='http://puttingonthefoil.com/wpfiles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting him drunk is clearly the best option. I&#039;d take one for the team and get drunk with him. 

Seriously, though, Mac made a good point that it might take &#039;til after training camp, when teams see what they have and what they&#039;re lacking, for someone to show any interest in him. I think hanging on to him for a bit is the best option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting him drunk is clearly the best option. I&#8217;d take one for the team and get drunk with him. </p>
<p>Seriously, though, Mac made a good point that it might take &#8217;til after training camp, when teams see what they have and what they&#8217;re lacking, for someone to show any interest in him. I think hanging on to him for a bit is the best option.</p>
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		<title>By: Racki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Racki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For sure there are teams wanting to claim him on recall waivers for that price ($2.7M cap hit). But I&#039;m not sure there is anyone knocking at the door to have him at full price without us taking something bad back. We&#039;ll see though.. hopefully there is something else out there. I just have a tough time dumping someone to hang on to him for maybe being able to trade Souray later. But really, I don&#039;t like coughing him up for nothing, or coughing him up for nothing and paying half his salary/cap. Lose-lose situation unless some GM out there gets desperate/stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For sure there are teams wanting to claim him on recall waivers for that price ($2.7M cap hit). But I&#8217;m not sure there is anyone knocking at the door to have him at full price without us taking something bad back. We&#8217;ll see though.. hopefully there is something else out there. I just have a tough time dumping someone to hang on to him for maybe being able to trade Souray later. But really, I don&#8217;t like coughing him up for nothing, or coughing him up for nothing and paying half his salary/cap. Lose-lose situation unless some GM out there gets desperate/stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though hanging on to Souray handcuffs the team a little in terms of cap space &amp; a juicy roster spot, I would find it unpalatable to allow someone to claim him off waivers (for nothing of course) then to add insult to injury the Oilers still have to pay the remaining $2.75 mil, possibly to score on...themselves! With the defensive injuries beginning to pile up around the league (&amp; it&#039;s not even regular season yet) I think the Oilers might be able to wait it out &amp; find a willing dance partner in the next 3 weeks or so. Behind closed doors you have to think that there are already maybe 3 teams wringing their hands at the thought of claiming a big, 40pt defenceman for less than $3 mil. Therefore, let&#039;s wait a little &amp; make THEM give us something plus we totally cut the strings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though hanging on to Souray handcuffs the team a little in terms of cap space &amp; a juicy roster spot, I would find it unpalatable to allow someone to claim him off waivers (for nothing of course) then to add insult to injury the Oilers still have to pay the remaining $2.75 mil, possibly to score on&#8230;themselves! With the defensive injuries beginning to pile up around the league (&amp; it&#8217;s not even regular season yet) I think the Oilers might be able to wait it out &amp; find a willing dance partner in the next 3 weeks or so. Behind closed doors you have to think that there are already maybe 3 teams wringing their hands at the thought of claiming a big, 40pt defenceman for less than $3 mil. Therefore, let&#8217;s wait a little &amp; make THEM give us something plus we totally cut the strings.</p>
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