Moreau, Nilsson, O’ Sullivan on Waivers

By , June 29, 2010 10:43 am

As per TSN site:

The Edmonton Oilers housecleaning is well underway as forwards Ethan Moreau, Robert Nilsson and Patrick O’Sullivan were all placed on waivers on Tuesday setting in motion the buyout process.

I know Racki will be happy, but I am more of this mind. But no big deal. Only one of my most favorite players ever just got waived from my team.

41 Responses to “Moreau, Nilsson, O’ Sullivan on Waivers”

  1. Steve-O says:

    Also, as per a tencer tweet:
    Buyouts would cost: O’Sullivan ($487,500 x2), Nilsson ($333,333 x2), Moreau ($666,666 x2)

  2. Racki says:

    Sorry man… Moreau was a favorite of mine too once.. but every guy gets old. He’s lost it. I wish him the best elsewhere though.

  3. mrgod2u says:

    Excellent, lets keep the Rebuild Express on track!

    I think we also need to declare that there will be no Captain going into camp. Let that be up for grabs and whatever person earns it gets it.

  4. Racki says:

    Yah, good point, mrgod2u. I think if I were a betting man though, I could see Horcoff getting it. Next in line might be Strudwick for reasons mentioned all over here (management/coaching love how he bridges the gap with the young players). I could also see Stortini as he’s apparently a very good locker room guy, is great with the fans, bleeds Oiler blue, will likely be here a while yet, and leads by example (works hard every night). Just throwing that one out there.

  5. Trogdor says:

    Who can we groom to take penalties at inopportune moments next season?

  6. Racki says:

    Steve-O: Also, as per a tencer tweet:
    Buyouts would cost: O’Sullivan ($487,500 x2), Nilsson ($333,333 x2), Moreau ($666,666 x2)

    Not to call Tencer wrong here, but I don’t think those numbers are correct.

  7. Racki says:

    Trogdor: Who can we groom to take penalties at inopportune moments next season?

    OOh kick a man while he’s down…

  8. Steve-O says:

    Ok, based on what Racki said I checked capgeek.

    ETHAN MOREAU BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
    2010-2011: $833,333
    2011-2012: $583,333

    ROBERT NILSSON BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
    2010-2011: $-83,333
    2011-2012: $416,667

    PATRICK O’SULLIVAN BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
    2010-2011: $935,417
    2011-2012: $397,917

  9. Steve-O says:

    And for discussion, here is what the roster sorta looks like now:
    AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
    FORWARDS
    Shawn Horcoff ($5.500m) / Dustin Penner ($4.250m) / Ales Hemsky ($4.100m)
    * Sam Gagner ($1.625m) / * Hall ($1.525m) / Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson ($1.525m)
    Jordan Eberle ($1.158m) / * Andrew Cogliano ($1.133m) / Ryan Jones ($0.975m)
    * Gilbert Brule ($0.800m) / * Colin Fraser ($0.700m) / Zack Stortini ($0.700m)
    DEFENSEMEN
    Sheldon Souray ($5.400m) / Ryan Whitney ($4.000m)
    Tom Gilbert ($4.000m) / Ladislav Smid ($1.300m)
    Taylor Chorney ($0.942m) / * Theo Peckham ($0.600m)
    GOALTENDERS
    Nikolai Khabibulin ($3.750m) / * Devan Dubnyk ($0.700m)
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
    (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
    ROSTER: 20; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $44.683m; CAP ROOM: $15.845m BONUSES: $1.127m

  10. gr8one says:

    Racki:
    Not to call Tencer wrong here, but I don’t think those numbers are correct.

    Shortly after that tweet, Tencer tweeted again they were wrong….

  11. mrgod2u says:

    I’m not sure about their being a pre-determined captain, especially Horcoff. The brass is pretty serious about this rebuild, and I don’t think anyone or thing should be a foregone conclusion. I think they are open to cleaning out every aspect of last year, I think as a whole our on ice leadership flat out sucked. It led in every negative stat. the only possible exception was Hemsky. So why re-visit that same leadership. Whitney is the only player who I think even deserves a letter from the end of last season. He busted his ass even in the games that didn’t count.

    I think if you want to truly banish that loser mentality from the ice then open it all up, Captain… up for grabs, power-play minutes…. go to performers, First line…. the best guys on the ice playing together.

    Second prize is a set of steak knives, third place is… You’re Fired!

    This team will never get better if we get all sentimental about things. Speaking of which, has a captain ever been waived while wearing the C before… That has to be a new low.

  12. victoriaoilerfan says:

    Steve-O: Ok, based on what Racki said I checked capgeek.ETHAN MOREAU BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM2010-2011: $833,3332011-2012: $583,333ROBERT NILSSON BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM2010-2011: $-83,3332011-2012: $416,667PATRICK O’SULLIVAN BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM2010-2011: $935,4172011-2012: $397,917

    This was posted on the Oilerboard> I am totaly confused??
    Quote:
    This is what would happen if we bought out Robert Nilsson, Patrick O’Sullivan and Ethan Moreau

    Robert Nilsson:

    2010-2011 Actual Salary: $2,500,000
    2010-2011 Cap Hit: $2,000,000
    2010-2011 Buyout: $416,667
    2010-2011 Savings: $2,083,333
    2010-2011 Buyout Cap Hit: -$83,333

    2011-2012 Actual Salary: $0
    2011-2012 Cap Hit: $0
    2011-2012 Buyout: $416,667
    2011-2012 Savings: -$416,667
    2011-2012 Buyout Cap Hit: $416,667

    Patrick O’Sullivan:

    2010-2011 Actual Salary: $2,387,500
    2010-2011 Cap Hit: $2,925,000
    2010-2011 Buyout: $397,917
    2010-2011 Savings: $1,989,583
    2010-2011 Buyout Cap Hit: $935,417

    2011-2012 Actual Salary: $0
    2011-2012 Cap Hit: $0
    2011-2012 Buyout: $397,917
    2011-2012 Savings: -$397,917
    2011-2012 Buyout Cap Hit: $397,017

    Ethan Moreau:

    2010-2011 Actual Salary: $1,750,000
    2010-2011 Cap Hit: $2,000,000
    2010-2011 Buyout: $583,333
    2010-2011 Savings: $1,166,667
    2010-2011 Buyout Cap Hit: $833,333

    2011-2012 Actual Salary: $0
    2011-2012 Cap Hit: $0
    2011-2012 Buyout: $583,333
    2011-2012 Savings: -$583,333
    2011-2012 Buyout Cap Hit: $583,333

    So this year if these 3 players are not bought out, it will cost the Oilers $6,925,000 in salary.

    If the Oilers bought out these 3 players it would cost them roughly $1,700,000 and next year it would cost the Oilers roughly $1,400,000

    Yes it will be cheaper to buy these 3 players out over the next 2 seasons as the Oilers would be saving roughly $3,800,000 in salary cap.

  13. Bostonoiler says:

    Its about time Tambi. Let the re-build keep on chugging!

  14. Racki says:

    From Cult of Hockey: “Mark Spector of Sportsnet is reporting that Moreau’s agent confirms Moreau has been bought out.”

    Excellent. Sorry, I know some of you such as Steve-O are huge fans (and by some of you, I mean, Steve-O alone). But his best days are clearly way behind him. This is great for the organization. A new captain also brings in more change to this organization that has undergone a HUGE face lift.

    I actually think Tambellini completely saved his reputation with me in this past month or two.

  15. neufab says:

    About 1.5 mil for 2 years on 3 guys isn’t so bad… Kotalik over 4 years eh ;)

    I’ve got 1 left on my Oilers forum sig. I’ll need 2 ??? guys with Gagner.

  16. Samus says:

    Yes!! good riddance to Moreau!

  17. Mr.Majestyk says:

    The sad thing about it is that he’s our captain for a few years and not only do we not want him back this season, we can’t even get another team to take him off our hands. Thats gotta sting a bit.

  18. Bostonoiler says:

    Anyone else wanna bet Horcoff gets a nod as captain?

  19. Haboiler says:

    I can’t imagine Horc getting the C this year, no one will actually get it this year I think. I’d say you will see 4-5 A’s instead: Horc, Whitney, Hemsky, Penner, Gagner.

  20. zackman35 says:

    Haboiler: I can’t imagine Horc getting the C this year, no one will actually get it this year I think.I’d say you will see 4-5 A’s instead:Horc, Whitney, Hemsky, Penner, Gagner.

    Haboiler! Where have you been? Actually I think Horc or Whitney will be likely candidates to wear the C. I say just leave it for a season or let someone earn it. If Hall continues down his path I’d say it’s likely to see him wear the C in about 3-4 years time. Now that’s logic thinking and giving him comfortable time to become a young captain. I hope Tambi doesn’t decide to slap the C on him.

    I really hope they let these kids develop, Eberle, MPS etc. Hall should be the only non-NHL’er to be making the team this year whether or not those two previously listed have a great camp. We should have legitimate hockey players in these roster spots not someone out of Juniors. Although MPS maybe able to squeeze in there do to his play in the SEL.

  21. Racki says:

    Cap Geek… man that site is great… here is the Oilers’ updated roster after the expected buyouts:

    http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=

    For posterity’s sake, we’re sitting at $40M with 8 forwards (including Eberle, Omark and MPS), 5 defense and 1 goaltender (plus the buyout amounts).

    I think the roster will be fairly different though (aside from the obvious need to fill it out with more players that we’ll need to re-sign), so this doesn’t say much yet.

  22. Bostonoiler says:

    Heres my new blog post on the topic: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/413378-waive-goodbye-oilers-waive-3-players?just_published=1

    Feel free to come by and comment guys!

  23. Bostonoiler says:

    Racki: Cap Geek… man that site is great… here is the Oilers’ updated roster after the expected buyouts:http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=For posterity’s sake, we’re sitting at $40M with 8 forwards (including Eberle, Omark and MPS), 5 defense and 1 goaltender (plus the buyout amounts).

    Well 9 soon, Hall will get signed.

  24. gr8one says:

    Woot, CBJ claimed Moreau off waivers, Hopefully he can resurrect his career and go out on a good note! Good Luck Ethan!

    The best part is though, no cap buyout cap hit for us!! Now, hopefully O’Sully and Nilsson get claimed!

  25. Racki says:

    AWESOME!!! There’s a big chunk of change the Oil won’t need to spend.

  26. victoriaoilerfan says:

    LeBrun is reporting Sully was traded for Vandameer, then both were bought out?? Whatever the hell that means. Stay tuned nothing is confirmed. This started with Tencer.
    http://twitter.com/real_espnlebrun

  27. gr8one says:

    Vic:

    Yeah, I’m curiously following this on twitter as well, bizarre, to say the least.

    Cap geek is suggesting that the cap hits are fairly similar buyout wise, but with Vandermeer the Oilers end up spending more overall money, but take a smaller hit this year instead of next year. Either way though, it’s weird.

  28. victoriaoilerfan says:

    gr8one: Vic:Yeah, I’m curiously following this on twitter as well, bizarre, to say the least.Cap geek is suggesting that the cap hits are fairly similar buyout wise, but with Vandermeer the Oilers end up spending more overall money, but take a smaller hit this year instead of next year. Either way though, it’s weird.

    My guess is we are keeping Vandameer either way. He is a bit of a plug. Slow but servicable but too expensive IMO. It’ll be interesting to see how this works out. Will Sully be playing for the Yotes next year???

  29. Racki says:

    Wow, interesting…

    That would be alright (even if we do keep Vandermeer as say a #7).

  30. victoriaoilerfan says:

    victoriaoilerfan: My guess is we are keeping Vandameer either way. He is a bit of a plug. Slow but servicable but too expensive IMO. It’ll be interesting to see how this works out. Will Sully be playing for the Yotes next year???

    Cap Geek:
    Jim Vandermeer is 30 years old on the buyout date of June 30, 2010, putting the total buyout cost at $1,533,333 spread over 2 years. His contract was originally valued at $6,900,000 with an annual cap hit of $2,300,000 beginning in 2008 and ending in 2011. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit number indicates a credit.
    SEASON ACTUAL SALARY CAP HIT BUYOUT SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT
    2010-2011 $2,300,000 $2,300,000 $766,667 $1,533,333 $766,667
    2011-2012 $0 $0 $766,667 $-766,667 $766,667

    TEXT CAP HIT BREAKDOWN (for copying and pasting)

    JIM VANDERMEER BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
    2010-2011: $766,667
    2011-2012: $766,667

  31. gr8one says:

    Yeah, word is we’ll be keeping Vandermeer, and Dreger is saying Tambi looking for similar move for Nilsson, and if not, than back to plan A of buyout. Good work Tambi!!

  32. Racki says:

    Yup, I’ll give Tambi an A+ on this one… exactly what I was hoping for.

    And as for Vandermeer… well, we’ll see how he is here. I’m luke warm to the idea, but he does add some good toughness on the blue line though at least.. something we did need. As a #7 or possibly a 6 he should be fine

  33. Bostonoiler says:

    I like these moves. Moreau is gone and off thr books, and he has found another team. Good luck to him in Columbus! I love the O’Sullivan trade. We save some money and we add a guy who is a shut-down defender (Now granted he is not an elite shutdown defender, but he is better than guys like Grebeskov). Word is we are keeping Vandermeer. I’d like to see him paired with Johnson on the 3rd pairing this coming season. Vandermeer adds some toughness to the backend(and we need some) and he also adds some size and can play a minor shut down role. Its worth it in my mind.

    I heard Tambi is trying to get something for Nilsson too. I would love if we could snag up a 4th or 3rd line forward here lol. As for Souray to St. Louis for Brewer, I’d love it. Brewer is a leader in St. Louis and is playing a real solid shut-down role there and would help us out big time. Didn’t we trade him for Pronger ?

  34. Racki says:

    Well folks, sounds like Nilsson wasn’t bought out….

    Bob McKenzie:

    This may be obvious but show me someone who actually reported it as fact: EDM bought out Robert Nilsson prior to 5 pm ET deadline Wed.

    I haven’t seen anything official, to be honest. And people were saying O’Sully and Moreau were bought out before they even would have been bought out (and well, as we know they weren’t bought out). So I suppose Nilsson is still an Oiler by the sounds of things. Or perhaps a Baron…?

    So on that note.. question is.. do they send him to OKC, or do they recall him and see if he goes on recall waivers (in which case we’re stuck with $1M cap hit for this coming year only)?

    Neeeevermind. I misunderstood what Bob McKenzie was saying. He was just saying that Nilsson WAS bought out, but no one reported it because they were all wrapped up in other things (I.e. it slipped through the cracks). Phew.

  35. MetalOil says:

    I found this interesting:

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/34311-THNcom-Top-10-Teams-with-salary-cap-space.html

    We have the 8th most amount of cap space to work with heading into free agency. Lots of this will go into signing our RFA’s but we should still have lots of cash left to add a quality UFA or two!!!

  36. Racki says:

    Oh yah, definitely plenty of cap space to work with. Let’s say all the guys that were qualified are resigned, with Peckham, O’Marra and Reddox in the minors. In addition, I’ll exclude MPS, Hall, Eberle and Omark as none of these guys are sure bets yet. I’ll also remove Chorney, as I’m not so sure he’ll be in the big show at the start of the season either

    So, we’ll take a guess as to what each remaining RFA player will re-sign for:

    Gagner 3M
    Brule 2M
    Cogliano 2M
    Dubnyk 0.8M
    Deslauriers 0.8M
    Fraser 1M
    JFJ 0.7M

    That would leave us with 18 players signed – 10 forwards, 3 goaltenders and 5 defensemen.

    Next we’ll take care of Strudwick and Johnson and say that at max, one of these guys will earn 0.9M as a 7th defenseman. So to round things out, we’ll need one more d-man as well as 3 forwards (until we dump a goaltender). In addition, we’ll need to trade Souray somewhere, most likely as well, and in turn will need yet another defenseman.

    Right now with 19 players signed, we’re sitting at just a smidgen over $12M in cap space with 4 players to sign. That’s an average of $3M available to each player, which definitely wouldn’t happen.

    I’d say the guy we want to spend the most money on would be a defenseman who brings an all around game if possible. But the most critical (again) is a defeseman that can shut players down. I’ll estimate that will cost approximately $4M. That’s $8M left for 3 players. And well, I have a feeling that at least 1 of those guys will be on an entry level contract (see Hall, MPS, etc..)

    Penner Gagner Hemsky
    ?? Brule Cogliano
    Jones Horcoff ??
    JFJ Fraser Stortini

    Whitney Gilbert
    Smid (Souray 2.0 – perhaps Brewer)
    ??? Vandermeer
    Strudwick or Johnson

    The forward lines don’t exact make me want to jump out of my seat, but I quite sloppily put them together. As I mentioned above, I’m guessing Hall, MPS or Eberle will be in there somewhere too, which will spice things up a bit. And really, adding Hall alone, let alone adding 2 or 3 of the kids, will change the dynamics of the lines quite a bit.

    At any rate, I think we’ll have a good buffer on cap space this year, even after picking up a couple of solid blueliners once we move Studly Wonderbomb.

  37. dawgtoy says:

    So now who does Tamby covet to make this team tougher to play against and help protect the younglings? My hope would be players that are able to play a regular shift, Boogy and Ivanans can fight, but that’s about it. Maybe Colton Orr or John Scott???

  38. Racki says:

    Jim Vandermeer… he won’t inspire fear in a heavyweight, but he’ll keep the other guys honest. Guys like Boogy and such are a thing of the past though and nothing to concern ourselves with. We have seen how ineffective they are. I used to be a big supporter of having a heavyweight tough guy, but we don’t need one. We just need some guys like Stortini, Vandermeer and such who can play AND fight.

    Robin Brownlee has been really plugging John Scott lately.. but I wonder how much he’s seen him play. He can fight, but he can’t play D all that well. Colton Orr is a different story. He’s a guy that can actually play hockey well enough to be in the lineup. Not sure if we could land him and what he’d cost though.

    I’d like to see us with at least one more guy in the light heavyweight area… those are the guys that will defend teammates when the time comes. The heavyweights are a sideshow. It’s not often at all that you see a heavyweight pound on a smaller guy, even after that smaller guy has done some damage to a teammate. So I’ll take a pass on the full time enforcer, and I know you weren’t suggesting a full time enforcer, but rather a guy that can play too… but I don’t think John Scott is that guy. Orr is though, if he can be had for a decent price tag.

  39. dawgtoy says:

    Agreed, the heavyweights that play 5 min. a game are useless IMO. We may have to pay a little more to land somebody, but it’d be worth it I think. Must be tougher to play against!

  40. Racki says:

    Someone here mentioned Zenon Konopka (Haboiler?). That’s a name that would be good to add some sandpaper to the lineup.

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